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EBAY BANS POOR AMERICANS FROM SELLING ITEMS ON EBAY EBay now disallows people who don’t have charge cards from selling items, depriving them of needed income. If a person doesn’t have a credit / debit card with visa/mc logo, i think the LEAST of their worries is "Gee, I can’t sell on ebay."
Everybody automatically starts with "no" credit rating. It is only when they mess up does their credit rating fall, or when they use credit wisely does it rise. So if you can manage your money well enough to get a credit card, you then qualify to sell on eBay. Almost everybody old enough to have a credit card has one in the USA (of those people who have applied for one), with the exception of people who don’t believe in any form of credit (because of religious or personal beliefs), and those who have already messed up their credit.
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EBAY BANS POOR AMERICANS FROM SELLING ITEMS ON EBAY EBay now disallows people who don’t have charge cards from selling items, depriving them of needed income. Now if we could just figure out how to keep them off Usenet. Who gave the poor a computer, dammit? A
Excellent, very funny. lol
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"ares" wrote OK, where’d they get the computer?
Friend or library. Maybe they’ve just been unemployed or disabled for a long while and either can’t get any more credit or want to be responsible and not run up any more than they know they can cover, but still need to make some extra cash. The conclusion jumping and snobbery over this has been truly amazing. The ISP account? CAn you get an ISP account without a credit card too?
Absolutely. My phone company is my ISP and it’s charged to my phone bill. I think there are still some free services, also, though they are disappearing. Do library computers connect to ebay?
Some, yes. Tell them poor people to just have a garage sale. If they’re that poor, where did they get stuff to sell?
Everybody has "stuff". – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Maybe they can borrow one of their rich friend’s computers.
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"Don Lancaster" wrote The overwhelming majority of individuals who do not have credit cards CAN AND SHOULD be banned from online commerce.
Why?
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Social Americans; (2) eBay is not the only source of income in America, thus income from eBay is not necessarily "needed." EBay may just be the main source f income for a good number of poor Americans, especially since eBay has formed a virtual "monopoly" on Internet auction sales.
How can eBay be the main source of income for poor Americans? I’d like to see the percentage of people below the poverty level that own a computer and have Internet access, let alone sell on eBay. Not only that, you have failed to contest point number two. And if eBay is the main source of income for a good number of poor Americans, that would attest more to the poor business practices of those people than anything else. Through the use of federal court orders, let us demand from eBay to turn over its records as to how many users it has, and we will compare this figure with the next largest online auction company. Then we let a federal judge decide if eBay has basically formed a monopoly on Internet auctions. If so, then it can be treated in a similar manner as Bell Telephone was treated in the 1970s, when it had a basic monopoly over all telephone service in America. The government set rates Bell could charge, demanded Bell provide free 4-11 service and more.
You’re kidding, right? Where’s Allen Funt and his candid camera? Let us look at eBay’s income. Let us see how much money eBay made last year, and compare it with the amount of money lost by poor Americans who were blocked from selling items on eBay because they had no CC#.
They lost nothing, because they can earn income in other ways. Anyone can get a credit card. People with no credit can get credit cards. Hell, people with no credit can get debit cards. The only people who cannot get credit cards are people who have bad credit. People only have bad credit through poor actions, and it is deserved. Then we’ll let the judge decide what to do about eBay’s un-American, profiteering practices which step on the poor so harshly, depriving them of badly needed income.
You’re demented. eBay is not the only source of income in America, thus income from eBay is not necessarily "badly needed." — Dan Sadro
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<snip Any reasonable person can see that EBay has formed a monopoly. It has abused its power by effectively canceling the selling abilities of a large number of poor Americans who do not have charge cards or debit cards. Prepare for a large federal lawsuit to be filed against eBay for the unethical, un-American activities it is engaging in. Poor Americans must have every right to sell items on eBay as wealthy Americans do.
Go for it. While you’re at it, sue every shopping mall in the country. After all, poor Americans should have every right to sell items in shopping malls just like big corporations do. Before you scrape together the legal fees, however, you might try and figure exactly where in the constitution or US statutes poor American’s obtained this absolute right to do business with a private company. Just one requirement, off the top of your head doesn’t count.
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EBAY BANS POOR AMERICANS FROM SELLING ITEMS ON EBAY EBay now disallows people who don’t have charge cards from selling items, depriving them of needed income. If a person doesn’t have a credit / debit card with visa/mc logo, i think the LEAST of their worries is "Gee, I can’t sell on ebay." I can’t imagine how you’d survive for a month without one. To e-mail me, remove theobvious from my e-mail address.
The correct wording should be EBAY BANS CROOKS, FELONS, FLAKES, LOSERS, AND SOCIETAL MISFITS FROM SELLING ITEMS ON EBAY. — Many thanks, Don Lancaster Synergetics 3860 West First Street Box 809 Thatcher, AZ 85552 Please visit my GURU’s LAIR web site at http://www.tinaja.com
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Poor Americans must have every right to sell items on eBay as wealthy Americans do.
The overwhelming majority of individuals who do not have credit cards CAN AND SHOULD be banned from online commerce. — Many thanks, Don Lancaster Synergetics 3860 West First Street Box 809 Thatcher, AZ 85552 Please visit my GURU’s LAIR web site at http://www.tinaja.com
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A lot of stuff that just seems like they are trying to get others riled up so that they can sit on their fat arses and do sod all all day, except smile smugly about how much money they are going to provide for lawyers the whole world over (maybe they are lawyers?). When you post your sad outraged comments, do you bother to read the replies? Even if you did, why ignore them? Don’t they tow the line you are spouting? You talk about freedom for the little people, (democracy I believe), but then seemingly ignore everybody who bothers to reply to you. Get a life, get a job, sell stuff on eBay. Langolier Rob. "Sit still too long and I’ll eat your sorry arse out of existence." Me, just now.
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Any chance of a reply to the point about where the "poor" americans got their computers and ISP accounts? Also, why only Americans? If you really are this outraged, why not defend everybody who apparantly doesn’t have a voice of their own. If they have a computer for accessing eBay, can’t they post here?
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Impmon; typed: EBay now disallows people who don’t have charge cards from selling items, depriving them of needed income. (1) You don’t need to have a charge card to sell on eBay. (2) eBay is not the only source of income in America, thus income from eBay is not necessarily "needed." EBay may just be the main source f income for a good number of poor Americans, especially since eBay has formed a virtual "monopoly" on Internet auction sales. Through the use of federal court orders, let us demand from eBay to turn over its records as to how many users it has, and we will compare this figure with the next largest online auction company. Then we let a federal judge decide if eBay has basically formed a monopoly on Internet auctions. If so, then it can be treated in a similar manner as Bell Telephone was treated in the 1970s, when it had a basic monopoly over all telephone service in America. The government set rates Bell could charge, demanded Bell provide free 4-11 service and more. Let us look at eBay’s income. Let us see how much money eBay made last year, and compare it with the amount of money lost by poor Americans who were blocked from selling items on eBay because they had no CC#. Then we’ll let the judge decide what to do about eBay’s un-American, profiteering practices which step on the poor so harshly, depriving them of badly needed income.
YES!! Lets get the Government involved. Then we could either force ebay to except foodstamps or we could just give the lazy bastards an ebay voucher for $100.00 a month. We could send it along with there foodstamps and welfare check. First lets get a herd of law talking guys to suck up the mone y that’s been made so far. Increase our taxes and our ebay fees in one fell Just go to McD’s and get yourself some hot coffee if you want to make some money. SOB this shit pisses me off!!!!!! Love Eblade
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EBAY BANS POOR AMERICANS FROM SELLING ITEMS ON EBAY EBay now disallows people who don’t have charge cards from selling items, depriving them of needed income.
Now if we could just figure out how to keep them off Usenet. Who gave the poor a computer, dammit? A
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"Don Lancaster" wrote The correct wording should be EBAY BANS CROOKS, FELONS, FLAKES, LOSERS, AND SOCIETAL MISFITS FROM SELLING ITEMS ON EBAY.
How does not having a credit card make a person any one of the things you mention?
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Any reasonable person can see that EBay has formed a monopoly. It has abused its power by effectively canceling the selling abilities of a large number of poor Americans who do not have charge cards or debit cards.
Well, there’s always yard sales, flea markets and the classified ads in their local newspapers. What makes you think that these folks, if they are so poor, have the computers, digital cameras, scanners and other resources to sell on eBay? Not to mention the money for internet access. Prepare for a large federal lawsuit to be filed against eBay for the unethical, un-American activities it is engaging in. Poor Americans must have every right to sell items on eBay as wealthy Americans do.
Why? Cynthia
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"poor" enough to maintain a phone line, internet connection, computer and ability to get items shipped in a timely manor? (have stamps and packaging materials on hand, access to a post office and bank, etc.) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – EBAY BANS POOR AMERICANS FROM SELLING ITEMS ON EBAY EBay now disallows people who don’t have charge cards from selling items, depriving them of needed income. EBay’s new policy stops poor Americans from selling items. These are poor people who badly need the money, often to buy food or to pay rent. But if a person has a charge card, meaning they already have money and good credit, then those people will be allowed to sell items on eBay. EBay is a monopoly, especially since it bought paypal.com. Perhaps Congress should look into this matter of eBay ruling the entire auctioning market on the Internet. If eBay has treated its competition in the same way it is treating its lower income users (by now excluding poor people from selling items on eBay) then there is good cause for congress to pass legislation which would severely restrict eBay’s right to expand. Are tax cuts on the wealthy really that helpful in America? (Humor page) http://members.fcc.net/workgroup5/humor/cnbc.html Understanding the US Economy (Economics) http://members.fcc.net/workgroup5/economy/index.html Democratic Socialism (politics) http://members.fcc.net/workgroup5/social.html
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Impmon; typed: EBay now disallows people who don’t have charge cards from selling items, depriving them of needed income.
(1) You don’t need to have a charge card to sell on eBay. (2) eBay is not the only source of income in America, thus income from eBay is not necessarily "needed." Unfortunately it is supposed to ban underage people from selling on eBay. There’s no foolproof way of telling if the new eBay user is an adult or not.
Well, most American banking institutions will not even allow debit cards for people under 18, so this one at least makes sense. If it’s a kid using their parents’ card, or a stolen card, it’s a whole different situation. This also blocks people who just won’t share CC info over the internet.
And really, this blocks very few people who would be sellers on the Internet. Let’s face it, if you’re not willing to share CC info online with reputable corporations, you’re not likely to willingly share your address with a complete stranger. I’m not disagreeing what you say; I’m just saying it likely has very little effect. — Dan Sadro
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – EBAY BANS POOR AMERICANS FROM SELLING ITEMS ON EBAY EBay now disallows people who don’t have charge cards from selling items, depriving them of needed income. Define "Poor" A checking account with a "Debit card" which acts just like a CC is common. So, your claim is false. EBay’s new policy stops poor Americans from selling items. These are poor people who badly need the money, often to buy food or to pay rent. But if a person has a charge card, meaning they already have money and good credit, then those people will be allowed to sell items on eBay. Of course, this could be viewed as an "Incentive" for those "Poor folks" to get their sh!t together and work. EBay is a monopoly, especially since it bought paypal.com. Perhaps Congress should look into this matter of eBay ruling the entire auctioning market on the Internet. If eBay has treated its competition in the same way it is treating its lower income users (by now excluding poor people from selling items on eBay) then there is good cause for congress to pass legislation which would severely restrict eBay’s right to expand. No, there’s other "Online auctions" being held, so ebay is NOT a monopoly, but they sure are the biggest and "somewhat" nasty from the perspective of being a seller/buyer with problems 
Any reasonable person can see that EBay has formed a monopoly. It has abused its power by effectively canceling the selling abilities of a large number of poor Americans who do not have charge cards or debit cards. Prepare for a large federal lawsuit to be filed against eBay for the unethical, un-American activities it is engaging in. Poor Americans must have every right to sell items on eBay as wealthy Americans do. Are tax cuts on the wealthy really that helpful in America? (Humor page) http://members.fcc.net/workgroup5/humor/cnbc.html Understanding the US Economy (Economics) http://members.fcc.net/workgroup5/economy/index.html Democratic Socialism (politics) http://members.fcc.net/workgroup5/social.html
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EBAY BANS POOR AMERICANS FROM SELLING ITEMS ON EBAY EBay now disallows people who don’t have charge cards from selling items, depriving them of needed income. EBay’s new policy stops poor Americans from selling items. These are poor people who badly need the money, often to buy food or to pay rent. But if a person has a charge card, meaning they already have money and good credit, then those people will be allowed to sell items on eBay. EBay is a monopoly, especially since it bought paypal.com. Perhaps Congress should look into this matter of eBay ruling the entire auctioning market on the Internet. If eBay has treated its competition in the same way it is treating its lower income users (by now excluding poor people from selling items on eBay) then there is good cause for congress to pass legislation which would severely restrict eBay’s right to expand. Are tax cuts on the wealthy really that helpful in America? (Humor page) http://members.fcc.net/workgroup5/humor/cnbc.html Understanding the US Economy (Economics) http://members.fcc.net/workgroup5/economy/index.html Democratic Socialism (politics) http://members.fcc.net/workgroup5/social.html
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Social Americans wrote EBay now disallows people who don’t have charge cards from selling items,
…unless they get "ID Verified" in which case they can run a tab of up to $25 in fees (or pay in advance an unlimited amount, of course) and make their payment by check.
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OK, where’d they get the computer? The ISP account? CAn you get an ISP account without a credit card too? Do library computers connect to ebay? Tell them poor people to just have a garage sale. If they’re that poor, where did they get stuff to sell? Maybe they can borrow one of their rich friend’s computers. ares
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – EBAY BANS POOR AMERICANS FROM SELLING ITEMS ON EBAY EBay now disallows people who don’t have charge cards from selling items, depriving them of needed income. If a person doesn’t have a credit / debit card with visa/mc logo, i think the LEAST of their worries is "Gee, I can’t sell on ebay." I can’t imagine how you’d survive for a month without one. To e-mail me, remove theobvious from my e-mail address.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Impmon; typed: EBay now disallows people who don’t have charge cards from selling items, depriving them of needed income. (1) You don’t need to have a charge card to sell on eBay. (2) eBay is not the only source of income in America, thus income from eBay is not necessarily "needed." EBay may just be the main source f income for a good number of poor Americans, especially since eBay has formed a virtual "monopoly" on Internet auction sales. Through the use of federal court orders, let us demand from eBay to turn over its records as to how many users it has, and we will compare this figure with the next largest online auction company. Then we let a federal judge decide if eBay has basically formed a monopoly on Internet auctions. If so, then it can be treated in a similar manner as Bell Telephone was treated in the 1970s, when it had a basic monopoly over all telephone service in America. The government set rates Bell could charge, demanded Bell provide free 4-11 service and more.
eBay is not Bell telephone. The telephone company monopolized an essential service. Online auctions are not an essential service. And do you really want the government to start micromanaging eBay’s fees and policies? What if Ashcroft wanders into the Mature Audiences area? Let us look at eBay’s income. Let us see how much money eBay made last year, and compare it with the amount of money lost by poor Americans who were blocked from selling items on eBay because they had no CC#. Then we’ll let the judge decide what to do about eBay’s un-American, profiteering practices which step on the poor so harshly, depriving them of badly needed income.
Oh, hell, just go get a credit card already. They’re practically giving them away these days. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Are tax cuts on the wealthy really that helpful in America? (Humor page) http://members.fcc.net/workgroup5/humor/cnbc.html Understanding the US Economy (Economics) http://members.fcc.net/workgroup5/economy/index.html Democratic Socialism (politics) http://members.fcc.net/workgroup5/social.html
– David
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Impmon; typed: EBay now disallows people who don’t have charge cards from selling items, depriving them of needed income. (1) You don’t need to have a charge card to sell on eBay. (2) eBay is not the only source of income in America, thus income from eBay is not necessarily "needed."
EBay may just be the main source f income for a good number of poor Americans, especially since eBay has formed a virtual "monopoly" on Internet auction sales. Through the use of federal court orders, let us demand from eBay to turn over its records as to how many users it has, and we will compare this figure with the next largest online auction company. Then we let a federal judge decide if eBay has basically formed a monopoly on Internet auctions. If so, then it can be treated in a similar manner as Bell Telephone was treated in the 1970s, when it had a basic monopoly over all telephone service in America. The government set rates Bell could charge, demanded Bell provide free 4-11 service and more. Let us look at eBay’s income. Let us see how much money eBay made last year, and compare it with the amount of money lost by poor Americans who were blocked from selling items on eBay because they had no CC#. Then we’ll let the judge decide what to do about eBay’s un-American, profiteering practices which step on the poor so harshly, depriving them of badly needed income. Are tax cuts on the wealthy really that helpful in America? (Humor page) http://members.fcc.net/workgroup5/humor/cnbc.html Understanding the US Economy (Economics) http://members.fcc.net/workgroup5/economy/index.html Democratic Socialism (politics) http://members.fcc.net/workgroup5/social.html
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EBAY BANS POOR AMERICANS FROM SELLING ITEMS ON EBAY EBay now disallows people who don’t have charge cards from selling items, depriving them of needed income.
If a person doesn’t have a credit / debit card with visa/mc logo, i think the LEAST of their worries is "Gee, I can’t sell on ebay." I can’t imagine how you’d survive for a month without one. To e-mail me, remove theobvious from my e-mail address.
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typed: EBay now disallows people who don’t have charge cards from selling items, depriving them of needed income.
Unfortunately it is supposed to ban underage people from selling on eBay. There’s no foolproof way of telling if the new eBay user is an adult or not. This also blocks people who just won’t share CC info over the internet. — All viruses and spams are automatically removed by my ISP before reaching my inbox. To reply, change digi.mon to tds.net
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EBAY BANS POOR AMERICANS FROM SELLING ITEMS ON EBAY EBay now disallows people who don’t have charge cards from selling items, depriving them of needed income.
Define "Poor" A checking account with a "Debit card" which acts just like a CC is common. So, your claim is false. EBay’s new policy stops poor Americans from selling items. These are poor people who badly need the money, often to buy food or to pay rent. But if a person has a charge card, meaning they already have money and good credit, then those people will be allowed to sell items on eBay.
Of course, this could be viewed as an "Incentive" for those "Poor folks" to get their sh!t together and work. EBay is a monopoly, especially since it bought paypal.com. Perhaps Congress should look into this matter of eBay ruling the entire auctioning market on the Internet. If eBay has treated its competition in the same way it is treating its lower income users (by now excluding poor people from selling items on eBay) then there is good cause for congress to pass legislation which would severely restrict eBay’s right to expand.
No, there’s other "Online auctions" being held, so ebay is NOT a monopoly, but they sure are the biggest and "somewhat" nasty from the perspective of being a seller/buyer with problems – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –
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