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Seems like a great way to lose business… I know I’d be majorly pissed if one of my vendors tried to pull that on me. but they may be able to sell the waiver to someone else. who knows? there will be a lot of sneaking around the new laws.
Not by legitimate vendors. It’s already been established in spam lists that opting in to a particular vendor’s email list does NOT opt one in to whomever that vendor sells his list. Fax transmissions, which have a far older history of regulation, will be even more easily held in check with this new interpretation. (She said hopefully.) — Ty Who is mostly just a slightly skewed Donna Reed This address is white-listed. Mail sent to it may bounce back to the sender.
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muttered something like: And speak of the devil, this article explains a bit more: http://www.clickz.com/em_mkt/opt/article.php/2248311 Oh, be still, my heart!! <swoon At long last, an *intelligent* bit of regulation and rule making!
More than ever, I wish this fax regulation would be extended to include e-mail. -Bertha — Buffy: She’s a very dangerous woman. Riley: Okay, I get it, Faith bad. Do I look like I’m arguing? Buffy: Not yet. But you always make that innocent face right before you start. Riley: Figured that out, huh? Damn. Took Mom twelve years to catch that one.
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Seems like a great way to lose business… I know I’d be majorly pissed if one of my vendors tried to pull that on me. but they may be able to sell the waiver to someone else. who knows? there will be a lot of sneaking around the new laws.
Sign the waiver, get a free penknife. Then they sell the company to Amazon. Back to normal. Anyway, what irks you most…..the spam faxes you get, or the 4 or 5 telelmarketers that call you each day, or the 50 daily emails you will never stop until we nuke Rumania?
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Anyway, what irks you most…..the spam faxes you get, or the 4 or 5 telelmarketers that call you each day, or the 50 daily emails you will never stop until we nuke Rumania?
And Korea. And… BobR
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There’s a new law, with new restrictions and new penalties. It’s a significant strengthening of the old law.
There’s been NO new law passed. It’s the same old law with the FTC strengthening<? some of the specific regulations.
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Seems like a great way to lose business… I know I’d be majorly pissed if one of my vendors tried to pull that on me.
but they may be able to sell the waiver to someone else. who knows? there will be a lot of sneaking around the new laws. — Knight-Toolworks & Custom Planes Custom made wooden planes at reasonable prices See http://www.knight-toolworks.com For prices and ordering instructions.
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There’s a new law, with new restrictions and new penalties. It’s a significant strengthening of the old law. And speak of the devil, this article explains a bit more: http://www.clickz.com/em_mkt/opt/article.php/2248311
Oh, be still, my heart!! <swoon At long last, an *intelligent* bit of regulation and rule making! — Ty Who is mostly just a slightly skewed Donna Reed This address is white-listed. Mail sent to it may bounce back to the sender.
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Lumpy: My vendor sent along a "Fax Communication Consent Form" to fill out and file with them if I wished to receive faxes in the future.
Steve Kinght: it’s the way they are trying to get around the new law. people will accidently sign these waivers and get calls again.
I’m not sure I understand what you’re saying??? Lumpy — www.lumpymusic.com In Your Ears for 40 Years
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Lumpy My vendor sent along a "Fax Communication Consent Form" to fill out and file with them if I wished to receive faxes in the future.
Steve Knight: : it’s the way they are trying to get : around the new law. people will : accidently sign these waivers and get calls again.
Jebus: Seems like a great way to lose business… I know I’d be majorly pissed if one of my vendors tried to pull that on me.
Tried to pull what? I don’t understand what either of you are suggesting. Lumpy — www.lumpymusic.com In Your Ears for 40 Years
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My vendor sent along a "Fax Communication Consent Form" to fill out and file with them if I wished to receive faxes in the future.
it’s the way they are trying to get around the new law. people will accidently sign these waivers and get calls again. — Knight-Toolworks & Custom Planes Custom made wooden planes at reasonable prices See http://www.knight-toolworks.com For prices and ordering instructions.
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That’s odd; spam faxes (especially broadcast fax spams) were made illegal under the Telephone Consumer Protection Act of 1991.
That’s what I thought. I’ve never fax’d anyone anything. But I thought I’d heard of the act you refer to. I dunno. Maybe congress just decided to spend a gazillion dollars writing a new law that says the same thing. They wouldn’t do that, would they..;-) Lumpy — www.lumpymusic.com In Your Ears for 40 Years
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Not particularly related to eBay but – I got a letter from one of my vendors today stating – "The FCC will put into place a regulation, on August 25, 2003, which makes it unlawful under the federal Telephone Consumer Protection Act for a wholesaler/distributor (or any other business or person) to send an unsolicited "advertisement" to any fax machine unless the customer or other recipient has granted the sender permission to do so." Reference the July 25, 2003 issue of the Federal Register, 68 FR 44144 That’s odd; spam faxes (especially broadcast fax spams) were made illegal under the Telephone Consumer Protection Act of 1991. http://consumer.net/telemarketing/tcpainfo.asp Kris
There’s a new law, with new restrictions and new penalties. It’s a significant strengthening of the old law.
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That’s odd; spam faxes (especially broadcast fax spams) were made illegal under the Telephone Consumer Protection Act of 1991. http://consumer.net/telemarketing/tcpainfo.asp Kris There’s a new law, with new restrictions and new penalties. It’s a significant strengthening of the old law.
And speak of the devil, this article explains a bit more: http://www.clickz.com/em_mkt/opt/article.php/2248311 Alice
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I got a letter from one of my vendors today stating – "The FCC will put into place a regulation, on August 25, 2003, which makes it unlawful under the federal Telephone Consumer Protection Act for a wholesaler/distributor (or any other business or person) to send an unsolicited "advertisement" to any fax machine unless the customer or other recipient has granted the sender permission to do so." Reference the July 25, 2003 issue of the Federal Register, 68 FR 44144 My vendor sent along a "Fax Communication Consent Form" to fill out and file with them if I wished to receive faxes in the future. Doesn’t affect me, I don’t own a fax. But interesting, none the less – IMO Lumpy
Your vendor is about 12 years behind the times, Lumpy, but it’s gratifying to know he’s taking the law’s provisions seriously. The Federal Telephone Consumers Protection Act of 1991 prohibits the sending of "junk faxes" to any party without specific permission to do so unless one has a prior business relationship with the recipient AND has not been advised to stop sending them. The law is very specific about how recipients can claim and obtain damages from senders of junk faxes AND that they do not have to advise such senders they do not want to receive said faxes. (One of the regular posters on nanae has reportedly collected several thousand dollars from this process.) Here’s a memo issued to automobile dealers from Universal Underwriters, regarding risk management and sending advertising faxes: http://tinyurl.com/kfq8 or http://www.universalunderwriters.com/uug/maintenance.nsf/d6ff9c8cb3bd… 525680f00474252/3c33fc3abf93c98785256cd4005ba91b/$FILE/LC-109.pdf From http://www.badads.org/fax.shtml comes this summary: ||| The Telephone Consumer Protection Act of 1991 ||| (47 USC
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