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And of course, if you ever lose 500 bucks or whatever, you’d probably have many thousands pocketed, and alot of that you might NOT have gotten if you didn’t take PayPal to begin with? Presumptuous of you to count my money, no?
It was asked as a question, as you can see. Not meaning to be presumptuous at all. Thanks for the other explanations. Always a sticky wicket, taking plastic under any guise. I, for example, am facing potential loss of revenue over time because of BillPoint’s demise. The risk of taking plastic aside, BP was GREAT for emailing invoices to the PayPal unhip, have done maybe $25K with it over last couple of years. PayPal has the awful condition now of requiring bank account info for people to spend over $2K. Not single transaction either, I mean PERIOD. How many "normal" biz customers are gonna give a payment service access to their bank account, eh? Mac
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The limit used to be $500, that was changed last March I think. Really its too bad, I’d like to take Paypal. Most of my buyers are first timers, so I’d probably get a lot of $5 referral bonusses. SteveO
Well, sounds like you do a pretty good volume. Wouldn’t the risk of a chargeback probably be worth it over time? Assuming you’re selling good stuff, well described, with good customer service, there’s every reason to think you’d NEVER get one. And of course, if you ever lose 500 bucks or whatever, you’d probably have many thousands pocketed, and alot of that you might NOT have gotten if you didn’t take PayPal to begin with? And more, you only have to have sig to cover yourself beyond the $250; is that not an option? Mac ====== – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Aha, thanks for that, Dan. They’ve taken that from BillPoint terms, then. Now *there’s* a little gotcha. I didn’t even know about that one. — Mac
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Well, sounds like you do a pretty good volume.
I do OK. Wouldn’t the risk of a chargeback probably be worth it over time?
That was a tough decision. One chargeback = 5 sales, so the risk reward ratio isn’t great. Most of my buyers are newbs, so most don’t have paypal anyways. And, since we run credit cards anyways, we don’t need paypal for that. Assuming you’re selling good stuff, well described, with good customer service, there’s every reason to think you’d NEVER get one.
Never say never….. 
Look at all the people who get neg’ed for no good reason. And of course, if you ever lose 500 bucks or whatever, you’d probably have many thousands pocketed, and alot of that you might NOT have gotten if you didn’t take PayPal to begin with?
Presumptuous of you to count my money, no? To sell on eBay means working real close, and I do about 5 sales a week. One chargeback costs me a weeks worth of business. Anyways, I get a lot of email questions. Paypal hasn’t come up too often. And more, you only have to have sig to cover yourself beyond the $250; is that not an option?
Well, two problems. I have a rolling inventory. What I sell doesn’t always get shipped in 7 days. Ebay regs say you have to ship in 30 days, but Paypal says 7. So thats one problem. Then, Fedex and UPS don’t always collect signatures. So, now I can be very vulnerable. Anyways, just a business decision. Yes some people don’t like to give their Visa number to a stranger…. but funny how they don’t mind doing it to pay for dinner. SteveO
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The limit used to be $500, that was changed last March I think. Really its too bad, I’d like to take Paypal. Most of my buyers are first timers, so I’d probably get a lot of $5 referral bonusses. SteveO
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Aha, thanks for that, Dan. They’ve taken that from BillPoint terms, then. Now *there’s* a little gotcha. I didn’t even know about that one. — Mac
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The limit used to be $500, that was changed last March I think. Really its too bad, I’d like to take Paypal. Most of my buyers are first timers, so I’d probably get a lot of $5 referral bonusses. SteveO
<snip The $5 referral bonuses effectively went away a long time ago. Now you have to get someone to not only sign up, but do everything up to including putting their first born male child in escrow before you earn that $5. Richard
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says… The limit used to be $500, that was changed last March I think. Really its too bad, I’d like to take Paypal. Most of my buyers are first timers, so I’d probably get a lot of $5 referral bonusses. SteveO <snip The $5 referral bonuses effectively went away a long time ago. Now you have to get someone to not only sign up, but do everything up to including putting their first born male child in escrow before you earn that $5. Richard
Yah, sexist organization, too. Won’t accept female kid as the hostage. — Mac
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Mac McDougald; … Since my sales are all over the $250 threshold, I can no longer accept paypal for my sales. Of what "threshold" do you speak? I think you have that confused with BillPoint’s seller protection plan. PayPal has no such figure to my knowledge, unless it’s something brand new.
I think it is new. source: <http://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=p/gen/protections-outside For items valued at $250 or more, you must include a signature from the recipient as proof of receipt. Most U.S. carrier companies, including the U.S. Postal Service, offer these proof of delivery services. I found it by luck whilst playing around on the PayPal website earlier this week. — Dan Sadro
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I’ve been using FedEx Ground (aka Home Delivery) for the past few weeks and am impressed. But many more people seem to use UPS and I’d like to know why. FedEx is cheaper, faster, and as easy to use AFAIK. What am I missing? Chris
My experience with Fedex ground is 100% bad. The only experience is as a buyer when I bought a cell phone. The seller used Fedex ground. The item was picked up – the driver signed the pickup order. The package was never scanned in. Insurance was purchased for the shipment. By the way, apparently Fedex ground, unlike UPS, does not automatically provide a minimum insurance coverage on all items. Turns out the seller lost her original cell phone which was insured with the cell phone provider and was given this one as a replacement. Since she could not produce a receipt for having purchased it, the insurance claim was denied. Seller never reimbursed me. I’m out the entire purchase price and shipping. Won’t be using Fedex ground again. Seller got a neg. Ron
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AFAIK. Fedex does insure all packages up to the $100.oo level for no extra charge. Yes, to the tracking #’s not hitting until a day or so later. Yes to the drivers being "contracted" Service here (on the coast of Oregon) has been good, ESPECIALLY since a new couple has taken over for the other driver who has retired. I do use UPS, USPS and fedex depending on circumstances. If you do UPS on line, it seems you have to "catch" the driver and give to him the packages….using the on-line pick up for fedex is good, and I just leave the package(s) for them. H —
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AFAIK. Fedex does insure all packages up to the $100.oo level for no extra charge.
Not FedEx GROUND ! Mac
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Fedex Ground (who does the Home Delivery pickups), has drivers who are independent contractors. These drivers are NOT Fedex employees. Its typical for you to give them a package, and the tracking numbers don’t hit the web site for days. Otherwise, their service has been just fine.
Fedex Express drivers are contractors too.
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My most recent shipment via FedEx was not enjoyable…had tracking#, emailed it to purchaser. 24 hours later, no record of shipment. 36 hours later, no record of shipment. Emailed purchaser and related same and that would refund purchase, if indeed lost. 48 hours later the tracking# appeared and turned out o.k. However, never had this problem with UPS.
I have. The item turned up after being rerouted to New Jersey on the way from Minnesota to Illinois. Deborah Stevenson
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… Since my sales are all over the $250 threshold, I can no longer accept paypal for my sales.
Of what "threshold" do you speak? I think you have that confused with BillPoint’s seller protection plan. PayPal has no such figure to my knowledge, unless it’s something brand new. Mac (doogle)
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says… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Mac McDougald; … Since my sales are all over the $250 threshold, I can no longer accept paypal for my sales. Of what "threshold" do you speak? I think you have that confused with BillPoint’s seller protection plan. PayPal has no such figure to my knowledge, unless it’s something brand new. I think it is new. source: <http://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=p/gen/protections-outside For items valued at $250 or more, you must include a signature from the recipient as proof of receipt. Most U.S. carrier companies, including the U.S. Postal Service, offer these proof of delivery services. I found it by luck whilst playing around on the PayPal website earlier this week.
Aha, thanks for that, Dan. They’ve taken that from BillPoint terms, then. Now *there’s* a little gotcha. I didn’t even know about that one. — Mac
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Fedex Ground (who does the Home Delivery pickups), has drivers who are independent contractors. These drivers are NOT Fedex employees. Its typical for you to give them a package, and the tracking numbers don’t hit the web site for days. Otherwise, their service has been just fine. One complaint – pay attention PayPal users – when you specify the driver needs to collect a signature (and you pay extra for this) many times they’ll just leave the package on the porch. Since my sales are all over the $250 threshold, I can no longer accept paypal for my sales. Fedex and UPS are both guilty of this. SteveO
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’ve been using FedEx Ground (aka Home Delivery) for the past few weeks and am impressed. But many more people seem to use UPS and I’d like to know why. FedEx is cheaper, faster, and as easy to use AFAIK. What am I missing? Chris My most recent shipment via FedEx was not enjoyable…had tracking#, emailed it to purchaser. 24 hours later, no record of shipment. 36 hours later, no record of shipment. Emailed purchaser and related same and that would refund purchase, if indeed lost. 48 hours later the tracking# appeared and turned out o.k. However, never had this problem with UPS. Never want to play that game again either. Bill N. Texas Bird Gallery Album http://home.earthlink.net/~wsumrall/
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’ve been using FedEx Ground (aka Home Delivery) for the past few weeks and am impressed. But many more people seem to use UPS and I’d like to know why. FedEx is cheaper, faster, and as easy to use AFAIK. What am I missing? Chris For me, FedEx was way too much trouble for the savings they intended to save me and ended up costing me much more in terms of time, energy, and money. This is because out of 80 or so packages, they lost one, misdirected one (input error on the part of a rep) and couldn’t find it for 3 weeks because they kept shipping it between the two zip codes, and caused two of my customers to wait approximately an extra week until the driver felt like going out to their areas (more rural areas). There are many horror stories for all of the shipping companies. My bad luck has been with FedEx Ground and Home Delivery and I refuse to use them. I have had excellent success with UPS, although they are expensive and take longer than other companies. I started using Airborne Ground for all of my sales, unless they require a signature for delivery (which they don’t do for residential deliveries). They are the least expensive that I’ve found and they are quick. The only downside is that there aren’t as many drop-off locations as UPS and FedEx.
I’ve only shipped 22 packages so far, but so far so good. I’m in MN and shipments to the Midwest take 1-2 days and to the coast 3-4 days (business days). I use the website to print out shipping labels and drop them off at a nearby Mailboxes Etc for free. Since I don’t have to wait in line it’s faster than sending Priority Mail and a lot cheaper for 3lb or more even without considering the free insurance and tracking. Rural addresses do cost $2 more but the two I’ve sent were delivered on time. The true test comes when something goes wrong, so we’ll see. I hadn’t thought of Airborne Ground. I’ll try them if FedEx screws up! Chris
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I’ve been using FedEx Ground (aka Home Delivery) for the past few weeks and am impressed. But many more people seem to use UPS and I’d like to know why. FedEx is cheaper, faster, and as easy to use AFAIK. What am I missing? Chris
Here in the greater Bonita-Eden-Sanchez metropolitan area, FedEx is awkward, difficult and slow compared to UPS. We avoid it as much as possible. — Many thanks, Don Lancaster Synergetics 3860 West First Street Box 809 Thatcher, AZ 85552 Please visit my GURU’s LAIR web site at http://www.tinaja.com
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I’ve been using FedEx Ground (aka Home Delivery) for the past few weeks and am impressed. But many more people seem to use UPS and I’d like to know why. FedEx is cheaper, faster, and as easy to use AFAIK. What am I missing? Chris
My most recent shipment via FedEx was not enjoyable…had tracking#, emailed it to purchaser. 24 hours later, no record of shipment. 36 hours later, no record of shipment. Emailed purchaser and related same and that would refund purchase, if indeed lost. 48 hours later the tracking# appeared and turned out o.k. However, never had this problem with UPS. Never want to play that game again either. Bill N. Texas Bird Gallery Album http://home.earthlink.net/~wsumrall/
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I’ve been using FedEx Ground (aka Home Delivery) for the past few weeks and am impressed. But many more people seem to use UPS and I’d like to know why. FedEx is cheaper, faster, and as easy to use AFAIK. What am I missing? Chris
For me, FedEx was way too much trouble for the savings they intended to save me and ended up costing me much more in terms of time, energy, and money. This is because out of 80 or so packages, they lost one, misdirected one (input error on the part of a rep) and couldn’t find it for 3 weeks because they kept shipping it between the two zip codes, and caused two of my customers to wait approximately an extra week until the driver felt like going out to their areas (more rural areas). There are many horror stories for all of the shipping companies. My bad luck has been with FedEx Ground and Home Delivery and I refuse to use them. I have had excellent success with UPS, although they are expensive and take longer than other companies. I started using Airborne Ground for all of my sales, unless they require a signature for delivery (which they don’t do for residential deliveries). They are the least expensive that I’ve found and they are quick. The only downside is that there aren’t as many drop-off locations as UPS and FedEx.
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I’ve been using FedEx Ground (aka Home Delivery) for the past few weeks and am impressed. But many more people seem to use UPS and I’d like to know why. FedEx is cheaper, faster, and as easy to use AFAIK. What am I missing? Chris
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