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And dats a fact I guarantee. Boudreaux and Thibodaux can strip dem damn car faster’n ya can say andouille sausage. …..or eat a fried oyster Po-Boy. Yum.
Now you’ve done it. I will be thinking of Muffulettas for a week.
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Now you’ve done it. I will be thinking of Muffulettas for a week.
Screw the fried oysters, shuck em and eat them right of the half shell. Fried seafood sucks. Rita
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Which only happens in Miami if you are parked for fifteen minutes or more. Or on I-10 in New Orleans. We once saw a car parked on the side of the road….drove back 30 minutes later, and it was stripped. At noon. And dats a fact I guarantee. Boudreaux and Thibodaux can strip dem damn car faster’n ya can say andouille sausage.
That’s funny! I used to work with a guy from Nawleans. He claimed that his car broke down in NY once, on the freeway. He got put, popped the hood, didn’t see anything obvious, jiggled a few wires, walked back to get in the car and saw a guy getting ready to put it up on blocks. He yelled "Hey, what are you doing!" and the guy said "Be cool – you can have the battery and radio – I just need the tires." A
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And dats a fact I guarantee. Boudreaux and Thibodaux can strip dem damn car faster’n ya can say andouille sausage. …..or eat a fried oyster Po-Boy. Yum. Now you’ve done it. I will be thinking of Muffulettas for a week.
Maybe we should have an AMOE meeting down there
Hell, I’d even go to eBay Live for an oyster po-boy Kris
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Hi I sold an item last Wednesday. The buyer informed me he was out of the country but would send a cheque on his return to the UK on Friday. I have had no cheque and no reply to my numerous emails
7 days. Numerous emails? Geez, you’ve probably got him worried that you’re scamming him and are anxious for his money. Calm down. Unless there is an obvious problem, I wait about 3 weeks before filing an NPB. By waiting, I make my life easier, don’t bug good people who just move slowly…..and don’t have to file many NPBs. Kris
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I sold an item last Wednesday. The buyer informed me he was out of the country but would send a cheque on his return to the UK on Friday. I have had no cheque and no reply to my numerous emails asking what the status is. If I report him as a non paying bidder and leave neg feedback, can he just leave me neg feedback as "revenge" if you like? I currently have 400+ feedback, all of which are positive (apart from 2 neutrals).
Yes, he can leave feedback for you, even if you choose not to leave some for him. But a week isn’t that long, especially if he’s sending a check; I’d give him at least another week. You have up to 45 days to file the NPB. -Bertha — "It is hard to imagine a more stupid or more dangerous way of making decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of people who pay no price for being wrong." –Thomas Sowell
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -"It’s been a week and you’ve sent "numerous" emails? You know he’s out of the country – and has been polite enough to inform you of this – and presumably busy on business or relaxing on vacation and you’ve sent "numerous" emails? " Tony, You have expressed similar opinions before and I remain baffled. My auctions says the buyer has THREE DAYS to pay via Paypal. 90% of my buyers pay withing 24 hours so that is not normally an issue. HOWEVER, if I send an invoice upon auction end and three days have gone by with no response or payment I have EVERY RIGHT to send another e-mail on day 3. If we hit day 5 and there is still not response, I have every right to e-mail again and explain we have tried to reach them with no response. If a week hits, their payment is now 4 days past due and if they have not responded to my invoice or e-mails, I can report them as a NPB and have EVERY RIGHT to send them an e-mail again saying such.
I am not questioning the "right" of anyone to do anything. I am questioning the common sense of someone that is doing something foolish. As far as I know, it is perfectly legal to honk your horn. However, if you’re sitting in traffic behind me, and you honk the instant the traffic light turns green, you have acted foolishly within your rights. I will then take an extra amount of time to pull slowly forward, and will do so at the next few lights if you are still behind me. And we will stop at the next few lights because that’s the way it is in traffic, and the seconds gained by instant acceleration are lost when we stop at the next light a few yards ahead. No good will come of this, but the honker pisses me off, and I will exercise my right to piss him off in return. If a week hits, their payment is now 4 days past due and if they have not responded to my invoice or e-mails, I can report them as a NPB and have EVERY RIGHT to send them an e-mail again saying such.
If you have an overwhelming urge to be in control and swagger around exercising your rights, buy a hamster and make it jump through a hoop to get fed. Don’t bother the rest of us. — Tony Cooper Orlando FL
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As far as I know, it is perfectly legal to honk your horn. However, if you’re sitting in traffic behind me, and you honk the instant the traffic light turns green, you have acted foolishly within your rights. I will then take an extra amount of time to pull slowly forward, and will do so at the next few lights if you are still behind me. And we will stop at the next few lights because that’s the way it is in traffic, and the seconds gained by instant acceleration are lost when we stop at the next light a few yards ahead. No good will come of this, but the honker pisses me off, and I will exercise my right to piss him off in return.
And you went to school in Chicagoland? The saying is that here drivers keep one hand on the horn. DH was at a light the other day that was getting ready to turn green and the guy behind him honked to be sure DH was ready to go when it did. (DH was looking at a map or something while he was stopped.) It loses effectiveness pretty quick – I don’t even notice it any more. A
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – As far as I know, it is perfectly legal to honk your horn. However, if you’re sitting in traffic behind me, and you honk the instant the traffic light turns green, you have acted foolishly within your rights. I will then take an extra amount of time to pull slowly forward, and will do so at the next few lights if you are still behind me. And we will stop at the next few lights because that’s the way it is in traffic, and the seconds gained by instant acceleration are lost when we stop at the next light a few yards ahead. No good will come of this, but the honker pisses me off, and I will exercise my right to piss him off in return. And you went to school in Chicagoland? The saying is that here drivers keep one hand on the horn.
I live in Florida now, and there’s a saying here that if you want to disable a car that is driven by a person that has moved here from New Jersey, New York or San Juan, you disconnect the horn. It’s more effective in disabling than removing the entire engine and transmission. — Tony Cooper Orlando FL
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It’s more effective in disabling than removing the entire engine and transmission.
Which only happens in Miami if you are parked for fifteen minutes or more.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – As far as I know, it is perfectly legal to honk your horn. However, if you’re sitting in traffic behind me, and you honk the instant the traffic light turns green, you have acted foolishly within your rights. I will then take an extra amount of time to pull slowly forward, and will do so at the next few lights if you are still behind me. And we will stop at the next few lights because that’s the way it is in traffic, and the seconds gained by instant acceleration are lost when we stop at the next light a few yards ahead. No good will come of this, but the honker pisses me off, and I will exercise my right to piss him off in return. And you went to school in Chicagoland? The saying is that here drivers keep one hand on the horn. I live in Florida now, and there’s a saying here that if you want to disable a car that is driven by a person that has moved here from New Jersey, New York or San Juan, you disconnect the horn. It’s more effective in disabling than removing the entire engine and transmission.
I would think that many of the FLorida residents are too deaf to hear the horn anyway. A
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It’s more effective in disabling than removing the entire engine and transmission. Which only happens in Miami if you are parked for fifteen minutes or more.
Or on I-10 in New Orleans. We once saw a car parked on the side of the road….drove back 30 minutes later, and it was stripped. At noon. Kris
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – As far as I know, it is perfectly legal to honk your horn. However, if you’re sitting in traffic behind me, and you honk the instant the traffic light turns green, you have acted foolishly within your rights. I will then take an extra amount of time to pull slowly forward, and will do so at the next few lights if you are still behind me. And we will stop at the next few lights because that’s the way it is in traffic, and the seconds gained by instant acceleration are lost when we stop at the next light a few yards ahead. No good will come of this, but the honker pisses me off, and I will exercise my right to piss him off in return. And you went to school in Chicagoland? The saying is that here drivers keep one hand on the horn. I live in Florida now, and there’s a saying here that if you want to disable a car that is driven by a person that has moved here from New Jersey, New York or San Juan, you disconnect the horn. It’s more effective in disabling than removing the entire engine and transmission. I would think that many of the FLorida residents are too deaf to hear the horn anyway. A
And if they drove properly nobody would *need* a horn. Best regards, Spehro Pefhany — "it’s the network…" "The Journey is the reward" Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com
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Which only happens in Miami if you are parked for fifteen minutes or
more. Or on I-10 in New Orleans. We once saw a car parked on the side of the road….drove back 30 minutes later, and it was stripped. At noon.
And dats a fact I guarantee. Boudreaux and Thibodaux can strip dem damn car faster’n ya can say andouille sausage.
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"And you haven’t figured out that some buyers just send payment and don’t e-mail first?" I think it’s very important to remember that more and more sellers ONLY accept Paypal as payment. That said, 5 business days IS very long for payment not to be made. If a seller only takes Paypal and a week has gone by with no response to e-mails, 99.9% of the time it’s a deadbeat. The rules may be different for those who still accept checks and money orders, but a buyer who doesn’t respond to any e-mails and just sends a check a few weeks later should have that taken into consideration before getting a positive since their "communication" sucks.
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Which only happens in Miami if you are parked for fifteen minutes or more. Or on I-10 in New Orleans. We once saw a car parked on the side of the road….drove back 30 minutes later, and it was stripped. At noon. And dats a fact I guarantee. Boudreaux and Thibodaux can strip dem damn car faster’n ya can say andouille sausage.
…..or eat a fried oyster Po-Boy. Yum. Kris I figured it was a sporting event
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -"It’s been a week and you’ve sent "numerous" emails? You know he’s out of the country – and has been polite enough to inform you of this – and presumably busy on business or relaxing on vacation and you’ve sent "numerous" emails? " Tony, You have expressed similar opinions before and I remain baffled. My auctions says the buyer has THREE DAYS to pay via Paypal. 90% of my buyers pay withing 24 hours so that is not normally an issue. HOWEVER, if I send an invoice upon auction end and three days have gone by with no response or payment I have EVERY RIGHT to send another e-mail on day 3. If we hit day 5 and there is still not response, I have every right to e-mail again and explain we have tried to reach them with no response. If a week hits, their payment is now 4 days past due and if they have not responded to my invoice or e-mails, I can report them as a NPB and have EVERY RIGHT to send them an e-mail again saying such.
You may have EVERY RIGHT to piss off your buyer, but does it do you any good to exercise that right? Does it help fulfill your desire to receive payment and conclude the transaction, or does it just lead to pissing off the buyer and increasing the odds of not getting payment and perhaps getting a neg instead? So before you exercise your RIGHTS, consider if your action will further your highest goals or not. Also consider that if you use the same contact method each time that ALL your emails may be getting lost between you and the buyer. Before you get upset and do something you might regret, try alternate methods to contact the buyer including sending email thru eBay, and pulling contact info and calling. Sure, if a seller has "take your time to pay me" in their auction or accept mailed payments like checks or money orders we all know some buyers simply mail payment and see no need to tell the seller they have done so. However, it is absolutely reasonable for a seller to expect SOME contact from the buyer in the days after the auction closes and e-mailing a couple of times is totally in line. If a seller only takes Paypal,
The OP takes checks (cheques). So we have to add in the time to have payment sent via snail mail. there is no excuse for the buyer to not pay within a couple of days and no excuse to not respond to invoices and e-mails from the seller.
The OPs buyer stated that they would be out of the country, and thus may not be checking their email during that time. If the buyer arrives home and finds "numerous" emails it might put the buyer off of completing the transaction. Maybe YOU feel a seller should only send one e-mail a week, but there is nothing wrong with a seller making several attempts to contact the
"several" (your term) and "numerous" (the OPs term) refer to a different number of emails. Several means "a few" while numerous means "too many to count". buyer and the buyer is creating the need for multiple e-mails by not responding.
The buyer pre-emptively noted that they would be out of the country and that payment would be sent on Friday, which was only 3 business days before the seller posted to amoe. I don’t know how long the mail takes in that part of the world, but I’d give it 7 days from the date the check was supposed to be mailed before I’d get all worried that the payment hadn’t been made as scheduled. If I were the OP, I would wait another week and if still no response, NPB,
I’d file the NPB on the first day you are eligible to file. For some people this shakes loose payment, without resorting to "numerous" emails. give the well deserved neg
Don’t leave a neg until you have determined that there is 0% chance of getting payment, because when you leave a neg you are guaranteeing that your chance drops to 0%. Only leave feedback (positive or negative) when the transaction is OVER. and move on. Sure, he could get a neg as revenge, but it happens, won’t be held against you if you have 99% positives and experienced eBayers know every seller gets a neg or two just because a buyer is a nut. Nothing wrong with expecting a buyer to respond to your first e-mail and making multiple attempts to reach them.
It’s completely unrealistic to "expect a buyer to respond to your first email" when the buyer has pre-emptively told you that they will be out of the country and that payment will be forthcoming at a later date (within the terms of the auction). jc
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"It’s been a week and you’ve sent "numerous" emails? You know he’s out of the country – and has been polite enough to inform you of this – and presumably busy on business or relaxing on vacation and you’ve sent "numerous" emails? " Tony, You have expressed similar opinions before and I remain baffled. My auctions says the buyer has THREE DAYS to pay via Paypal. 90% of my buyers pay withing 24 hours so that is not normally an issue. HOWEVER, if I send an invoice upon auction end and three days have gone by with no response or payment I have EVERY RIGHT to send another e-mail on day 3. If we hit day 5 and there is still not response, I have every right to e-mail again and explain we have tried to reach them with no response. If a week hits, their payment is now 4 days past due and if they have not responded to my invoice or e-mails, I can report them as a NPB and have EVERY RIGHT to send them an e-mail again saying such. Sure, if a seller has "take your time to pay me" in their auction or accept mailed payments like checks or money orders we all know some buyers simply mail payment and see no need to tell the seller they have done so. However, it is absolutely reasonable for a seller to expect SOME contact from the buyer in the days after the auction closes and e-mailing a couple of times is totally in line. If a seller only takes Paypal, there is no excuse for the buyer to not pay within a couple of days and no excuse to not respond to invoices and e-mails from the seller. Maybe YOU feel a seller should only send one e-mail a week, but there is nothing wrong with a seller making several attempts to contact the buyer and the buyer is creating the need for multiple e-mails by not responding. If I were the OP, I would wait another week and if still no response, NPB, give the well deserved neg and move on. Sure, he could get a neg as revenge, but it happens, won’t be held against you if you have 99% positives and experienced eBayers know every seller gets a neg or two just because a buyer is a nut. Nothing wrong with expecting a buyer to respond to your first e-mail and making multiple attempts to reach them.
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi I sold an item last Wednesday. The buyer informed me he was out of the country but would send a cheque on his return to the UK on Friday. I have had no cheque and no reply to my numerous emails asking what the status is. If I report him as a non paying bidder and leave neg feedback, can he just leave me neg feedback as "revenge" if you like? I currently have 400+ feedback, all of which are positive (apart from 2 neutrals). Thanks in advance. It’s been a week and you’ve sent "numerous" emails? You know he’s out of the country – and has been polite enough to inform you of this – and presumably busy on business or relaxing on vacation and you’ve sent "numerous" emails? You know he’s completed at least 400 transactions successfully and you’ve sent him "numerous" emails during the first week after the sale. Have him write in here for advice. I’ll suggest he neg *you* straight-away. I’ll then suggest that he purchase six more cheap items from you and neg you on all of them.
All under different eBay ids, of course. — Crazy Dog wfh at crazy hyphen dog dot fsnet dot co dot uk
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Hi I sold an item last Wednesday. The buyer informed me he was out of the country but would send a cheque on his return to the UK on Friday. I have had no cheque and no reply to my numerous emails asking what the status is. If I report him as a non paying bidder and leave neg feedback, can he just leave me neg feedback as "revenge" if you like? I currently have 400+ feedback, all of which are positive (apart from 2 neutrals). Thanks in advance.
It’s been a week and you’ve sent "numerous" emails? You know he’s out of the country – and has been polite enough to inform you of this – and presumably busy on business or relaxing on vacation and you’ve sent "numerous" emails? You know he’s completed at least 400 transactions successfully and you’ve sent him "numerous" emails during the first week after the sale. Have him write in here for advice. I’ll suggest he neg *you* straight-away. I’ll then suggest that he purchase six more cheap items from you and neg you on all of them. — Tony Cooper Orlando FL
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Hi I sold an item last Wednesday. The buyer informed me he was out of the country but would send a cheque on his return to the UK on Friday. I have had no cheque and no reply to my numerous emails asking what the status is. If I report him as a non paying bidder and leave neg feedback, can he just leave me neg feedback as "revenge" if you like? I currently have 400+ feedback, all of which are positive (apart from 2 neutrals). Thanks in advance.
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I sold an item last Wednesday. The buyer informed me he was out of the country but would send a cheque on his return to the UK on Friday. I have had no cheque and no reply to my numerous emails asking what the status is. If I report him as a non paying bidder and leave neg feedback, can he just leave me neg feedback as "revenge" if you like? I currently have 400+ feedback, all of which are positive (apart from 2 neutrals).
Sure, people leave retaliatory feedback all the time. People’s reluctance to neg someone due to this is one of the reasons I take feedback ratings with a grain of salt, especially on companies with a low-ish rating on a large number of transactions in the 98-97% or lower range. I.e. , I figure their true rating is likely lower. I notice companies like this often have these large clumps of short, terse positive feedback from one particular member – "great seller!" or even just "great" or the like which I suspect to be shill accounts to artificially counteract the negs they’ve gotten. Clearly specify in the auction a time frame within which you expect payment. If they don’t meet it and don’t attempt any communications, send a polite but firm e-mail and if they don’t respond in a timely fashion, neg their asses. If they do come up with some reason they haven’t sent payment, it’s up to you whether you want to work with them and when to decide they’re just a deadbeat.
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