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I suppose you think a woman who gets raped is asking for it because she wears a short skirt. …, yes, absolutely, …
Buck — But that’s just my opinion.
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Is it possible to force PP to use a credit card automatically rather than tell it every transaction?
No. If you never got your account "verified" than "CC" would be the default. Once verified, you have to do daily sweeps of all funds to keep a zero balance and go through a few mouse clicks to use the old CC. Rita
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Oh, btw, always pay with a CC or CC funded PayPal transfer when dealing with ***ANY*** online transaction. Sorry, just had to do it.
LOL! Say it four more times and click your heels and I’ll bet you some dumbass will use a balance transfer. Rita
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Nice. Blame the victim. I suppose you think a woman who gets raped is asking for it because she wears a short skirt.
Without the victim doing something as asinine as paying for an online transaction with a form of payment other than a CC, yes, absolutely, I blame the "victim" for being part of the problem. Then the next step is the "victim" goes on a whining crusade of how it’s everyone else’s fault and the "system" must be changed so they can have more protection. Yes, a buyer can take steps to mitigate their exposure, but to blame them is ridiculous. Do you pay for everything with a credit card? I often use cash for transactions. You remember cash, that paper stuff with numbers on it?
Sure, I pay for just about everything with a credit or debit card since it’s safer, more convenient, and easier for bookkeeping. I have *always* paid for my catalog or on-line orders with a CC since the 80’s. As for cash, I never carry more than $100 and do keep a few dollars in the old panty drawer for fragrance. Rita
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Nice. Blame the victim. I suppose you think a woman who gets raped is asking for it because she wears a short skirt. Yes, a buyer can take steps to mitigate their exposure, but to blame them is ridiculous. Do you pay for everything with a credit card? I often use cash for transactions. You remember cash, that paper stuff with numbers on it?
With some people, the problem is always someone elses. It doesn’t matter what the situation is or what the circumstances are … if you get robbed, it’s your fault because you shouldn’t have been in that part of town carrying 20 cents. Personally I don’t pay for anything with Paypal anymore (I refuse to use their services) and don’t take Paypal for payment (it’s against eBay and Paypal policy for me to use them). When I buy stuff and don’t get it, I chalk it up as a business loss and the people who buy stuff from me have to pay for it. That’s all.
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I know this thread wasn’t started intending to be humorous… but I wanted to see if I was the only one reading the subject line and thinking of Dr Seuss.
Nope! I haven’t followed the thread, but when I saw the title, I was under the impression that the Seuss resemblance was on purpose. mjoann
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can i phone the police department of the seller, the city’s police department of where the seller lives?
I tried it once. I wouldn’t have bothered for $70 but the seller had ripped of quite a number of people and I thought if we all complained, it would add up to enough to make a serious case. As it turned out, none of the other buyers could be convinced to report it. I had two addresses for the seller, in a mid-sized American city and in a nearby suburb. The detective I spoke to in the city sounded like he thought I was crazy for calling and didn’t seem to be interested in taking any information from me. I said something like, "Well, actually his address is in [suburb]. Is that part of your jurisdiction?" He said no and gave me the number for the other police department (win-win situation — I wanted someone else to help me and he wanted to get rid of me 
The detective I spoke to in the other town was friendly and helpful. He told me to fax him whatever documentation I had (PayPal payment details page, eBay auction, e-mails) and he’d go knock on the guy’s door and see if he could scare him into paying me. He said there was next to no chance of getting a conviction in court (as it would require me to come testify in person, for one thing) but if the seller didn’t know that then maybe this would work. Well, I didn’t hear anything for 6 months and had long since given up when I got a phone call from the cop. He apologized for the delay (he had some major cases to work on first, bank robbery etc.) but he had just visited the seller who had promised to pay me by that Friday. Within 12 hours I had a desperate-sounding e-mail from the seller begging me to please send him my contact info ASAP so he could refund my money — he must have said "please reply as soon as possible" or some variation of it at least 5 times in the message. He sent a refund as soon as he got my reply. http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–= Over 100,000 Newsgroups – Unlimited Fast Downloads – 19 Servers =—–
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Is it possible to force PP to use a credit card automatically rather than tell it every transaction? LB No, unfortunately, but its not hard to do, just a couple of more steps (which is not bad when you want to protect yourself, right???) Make sure your PP account is empty (nada, nothing, zilch, zero dinero…) When paying, click on "Other Funding Options" Choose "Credit Card" It wil ask you are you sure…click Yes. That is the only way to do it.
Yes, I knew, PIA <sigh) Thanks LB
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Is it possible to force PP to use a credit card automatically rather than tell it every transaction? LB
No, unfortunately, but its not hard to do, just a couple of more steps (which is not bad when you want to protect yourself, right???) Make sure your PP account is empty (nada, nothing, zilch, zero dinero…) When paying, click on "Other Funding Options" Choose "Credit Card" It wil ask you are you sure…click Yes. That is the only way to do it.
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It’s the *buyer’s* responsibility to properly pay for the auction. I said it a thousand times and I’ll say it again, "If a buyer is stupid enough to pay for any online transaction with a payment source other than a credit card they deserve to get burned." Please don’t take this as an attack on you, but buyers need to be held accountable for this foolishness.
Nice. Blame the victim. I suppose you think a woman who gets raped is asking for it because she wears a short skirt. Yes, a buyer can take steps to mitigate their exposure, but to blame them is ridiculous. Do you pay for everything with a credit card? I often use cash for transactions. You remember cash, that paper stuff with numbers on it? — Craig Wagner, craig.wagner(at)comcast.net Portland, OR "Don’t ban high-performance vehicles, ban low-performance drivers!"
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The main issue when dealing with *ANY* online transaction is to pay with a CC or a CC funded PayPal transfer. The main issue when dealing with *ANY* online transaction is to pay with a CC or a CC funded PayPal transfer. The main issue when dealing with *ANY* online transaction is to pay with a CC or a CC funded PayPal transfer. Oh, btw, always pay with a CC or CC funded PayPal transfer when dealing with ***ANY*** online transaction.
It’s suprizing to me how little some people understand about the subject of paying by PP and credit card. I’ve talked with a lot of people on non eBay groups that bought something and the deal went bad (typically guitars). When I suggested "Always use a credit card" their typical answer is "It wasn’t a credit card it was PayPal". I even went to the listings of some of the sellers they questioned. It was quite obvious that their PP acct would accept credit cards and not just non CC’s. Lumpy — In Your Ears for 40 Years http://www.lumpymusic.com
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: evan, thx for your input. : : are you a cop or something? how are you so definite about that the police : won’t handle this case be it interstate or otherwise? by the way this isn’t : my first time i’ve been victim. years ago when i bought something on yahoo : classifieds, it was fraud. the police even told me they won’t even : seriously look into the case unless the monetary loss for the victim is : greater than $50k?! : : and i didn’t wait for 30 days to file my claim w/ paypal. since the seller : only had 9 bucks in his paypal account at the time i filed my : complaint…only 9 bucks was reimbursed to me out of $850!?! it’s a damn : shame. paypal should have the authority to deduct my losses from the : seller’s bank account, or put some kind of lien or something/anything this : sleazy crooked man So you actually have been reimbursed $509, which leaves you out $341 correct? As others have said, it is not a criminal matter, but it is a civil matter and you could take it to small claims court.
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can i phone the police department of the seller… … and will they have the power to bring this guy into the station for questioning? and possibly make him pay up right there on the spot my losses…
Sure they will. Send the local police an SASE and be sure and tell them how much the guy owes you. (hint, add in a little xtra for your trouble, the cops won’t know). They’ll send the biggest cops they have to his home and his office, if he’s not home. They’ll get your money, send it to you, and probably kick the guys ass just to teach him a lesson. And I think you can save on postage by giving the SASE and your note to your own local cops. They will send it on to the appropriate agency where the buyer lives. Just call 911 and have the cops come by and pick it up. That’s what your tax dollars are for. It would be nice if you’d have donuts or bagels for when the cops arrive. Lumpy — Now! More melodic than Yanni, but less hair than John Tesh. http://www.digitalcartography.com
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Is it possible to force PP to use a credit card automatically rather than tell it every transaction?
I’ve looked for such an option and have not found it. I don’t think it’s possible, but hope someone here will prove me wrong. It sure would be a nice time-saving feature to be able to do that. Loren
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – and i didn’t wait for 30 days to file my claim w/ paypal. since the seller only had 9 bucks in his paypal account at the time i filed my complaint…only 9 bucks was reimbursed to me out of $850!?! it’s a damn shame. paypal should have the authority to deduct my losses from the seller’s bank account, or put some kind of lien or something/anything this sleazy crooked man I’m sorry to hear about your loss, Lawrence. The main issue when dealing with *ANY* online transaction is to pay with a CC or a CC funded PayPal transfer. You should consider yourself fortunate that you only lost $350. NEVER keep a PayPal balance as it prevents you from using a CC to its fullest advantage. Always do daily sweeps of any funds you might have in your PayPal account. Doing this will allow you a 100% CC funded payment that will get *ALL* your money back if something goes wrong. Remember, it’s totally and utterly foolish to pay for any online transaction with anything other than a CC that people doing so are irresponsible. As a seller, I don’t want PayPal in my bank account nor do I agree with you that a seller should be penalized in that fashion. It’s the *buyer’s* responsibility to properly pay for the auction. I said it a thousand times and I’ll say it again, "If a buyer is stupid enough to pay for any online transaction with a payment source other than a credit card they deserve to get burned." Please don’t take this as an attack on you, but buyers need to be held accountable for this foolishness. Rita
Is it possible to force PP to use a credit card automatically rather than tell it every transaction? LB
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"Lawrence" ok, here’s my question: can i phone the police department of the seller, the city’s police department of where the seller lives? i mean surely i can, of course. but do they have and will they have the power to bring this guy into the station for questioning?
Yes, questioning is their job. and possibly make him pay up right there on the spot
No, that’s up to the court. will they just say we don’t do interstate ecommerce disputes?
Depends on how lazy or overworked the cops are. The U. S. Attorney in this guy’s area will find the time.
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The main issue when dealing with *ANY* online transaction is to pay with a CC or a CC funded PayPal transfer.
Just in case you didn’t ‘hear’ Rita: The main issue when dealing with *ANY* online transaction is to pay with a CC or a CC funded PayPal transfer. The main issue when dealing with *ANY* online transaction is to pay with a CC or a CC funded PayPal transfer. The main issue when dealing with *ANY* online transaction is to pay with a CC or a CC funded PayPal transfer. Oh, btw, always pay with a CC or CC funded PayPal transfer when dealing with ***ANY*** online transaction. Sorry, just had to do it. Loren
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are you a cop or something? how are you so definite about that the police won’t handle this case be it interstate or otherwise?
Why the hell did you ask for advice if you don’t want to believe the answers you get? If you’re in the USA you probably live relatively close to a community college. Go take a Civics 101 class or something. No law enforcement agency in any jurisdiction has the authority to pick someone up or to call them in for questioning based on a fucking phone call from someone else. If you want to pursue this legally, contact the state attorney (or district atttorney or prosecuting attorney or whatever it’s called in that jurisdiction) and ask how you can file a complaint for criminal fraud. You can also file a suit for civil fraud. Be prepared to pay a lawyer a lot of money to help with that one. paypal should have the authority to deduct my losses from the seller’s bank account, or put some kind of lien or something/anything this sleazy crooked man
You’re beyond clueless, and I’d strongly suggest you give up buying merchandise from strangers over the internet. — Ty Who is mostly just a slightly skewed Donna Reed
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – i’m here to declare i’m officially a victim of a fraud. case: non-delivery of merchandise. item: men’s gold bracelet value: $850 time: happened 1.5 months ago on ebay i have already filed complaints with ebay, paypal, credit card co., and all the ‘internet police’ sites out there. i paid $500 on my credit card, which has been reimbursed…and $350 from my paypal balance. emails were going nowhere. phone calls…again got nowhere, he’s bs’ing excuses. ok, here’s my question: can i phone the police department of the seller, the city’s police department of where the seller lives? i mean surely i can, of course. but do they have and will they have the power to bring this guy into the station for questioning? and possibly make him pay up right there on the spot my losses. or will they just say we don’t do interstate ecommerce disputes? let me know ASAP. thx very much
No, the local police have no authority whatsoever to "bring this guy into the station." Was this post a joke, or do you really know this little about civil and criminal law? — Ty Who is mostly just a slightly skewed Donna Reed
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and i didn’t wait for 30 days to file my claim w/ paypal. since the seller only had 9 bucks in his paypal account at the time i filed my complaint…only 9 bucks was reimbursed to me out of $850!?! it’s a damn shame. paypal should have the authority to deduct my losses from the seller’s bank account, or put some kind of lien or something/anything this sleazy crooked man
I’m sorry to hear about your loss, Lawrence. The main issue when dealing with *ANY* online transaction is to pay with a CC or a CC funded PayPal transfer. You should consider yourself fortunate that you only lost $350. NEVER keep a PayPal balance as it prevents you from using a CC to its fullest advantage. Always do daily sweeps of any funds you might have in your PayPal account. Doing this will allow you a 100% CC funded payment that will get *ALL* your money back if something goes wrong. Remember, it’s totally and utterly foolish to pay for any online transaction with anything other than a CC that people doing so are irresponsible. As a seller, I don’t want PayPal in my bank account nor do I agree with you that a seller should be penalized in that fashion. It’s the *buyer’s* responsibility to properly pay for the auction. I said it a thousand times and I’ll say it again, "If a buyer is stupid enough to pay for any online transaction with a payment source other than a credit card they deserve to get burned." Please don’t take this as an attack on you, but buyers need to be held accountable for this foolishness. Rita
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evan, thx for your input. are you a cop or something? how are you so definite about that the police won’t handle this case be it interstate or otherwise? by the way this isn’t my first time i’ve been victim. years ago when i bought something on yahoo classifieds, it was fraud. the police even told me they won’t even seriously look into the case unless the monetary loss for the victim is greater than $50k?!
No, I’m not a cop, but basically, it’s a civil matter. There wasn’t a verifiable crime comitted. Had the person broke into your house, and you cought them as they were leaving, and saw them, they could then get fingerprints, etc. But "I paid for an item and didn’t receive it" is a civil matter. It’s a he said she said situation. and i didn’t wait for 30 days to file my claim w/ paypal. since the seller only had 9 bucks in his paypal account at the time i filed my complaint…only 9 bucks was reimbursed to me out of $850!?! it’s a damn shame. paypal should have the authority to deduct my losses from the seller’s bank account, or put some kind of lien or something/anything this sleazy crooked man
Paypal has no authority to do so, however you do by filing a small claims court suit. — To reply, remove TheObvious from my e-mail address.
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evan, thx for your input. are you a cop or something? how are you so definite about that the police won’t handle this case be it interstate or otherwise? by the way this isn’t my first time i’ve been victim. years ago when i bought something on yahoo classifieds, it was fraud. the police even told me they won’t even seriously look into the case unless the monetary loss for the victim is greater than $50k?! and i didn’t wait for 30 days to file my claim w/ paypal. since the seller only had 9 bucks in his paypal account at the time i filed my complaint…only 9 bucks was reimbursed to me out of $850!?! it’s a damn shame. paypal should have the authority to deduct my losses from the seller’s bank account, or put some kind of lien or something/anything this sleazy crooked man
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – hi i’m here to declare i’m officially a victim of a fraud. case: non-delivery of merchandise. item: men’s gold bracelet value: $850 time: happened 1.5 months ago on ebay i have already filed complaints with ebay, paypal, credit card co., and all the ‘internet police’ sites out there. i paid $500 on my credit card, which has been reimbursed…and $350 from my paypal balance. emails were going nowhere. phone calls…again got nowhere, he’s bs’ing excuses. ok, here’s my question: can i phone the police department of the seller, the city’s police department of where the seller lives? i mean surely i can, of course. but do they have and will they have the power to bring this guy into the station for questioning? and possibly make him pay up right there on the spot my losses. or will they just say we don’t do interstate ecommerce disputes? No. The police won’t handle DISPUTES period – interstate or otherwise. Even if the guy live a block away, the police wouldn’t do anything – well, perhaps they WOULD but as soon as the guy pleaded ignorance, they would have to let him go – they have no evidence. This is a civil matter. Unfortunately, you waited past the 30 day paypal dispute time, and paid with something other than paypal. Maybe others here have other advice, I can only offer advice on the police issue. Evan — To reply, remove TheObvious from my e-mail address.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – hi i’m here to declare i’m officially a victim of a fraud. case: non-delivery of merchandise. item: men’s gold bracelet value: $850 time: happened 1.5 months ago on ebay i have already filed complaints with ebay, paypal, credit card co., and all the ‘internet police’ sites out there. i paid $500 on my credit card, which has been reimbursed…and $350 from my paypal balance. emails were going nowhere. phone calls…again got nowhere, he’s bs’ing excuses. ok, here’s my question: can i phone the police department of the seller, the city’s police department of where the seller lives? i mean surely i can, of course. but do they have and will they have the power to bring this guy into the station for questioning? and possibly make him pay up right there on the spot my losses. or will they just say we don’t do interstate ecommerce disputes?
No. The police won’t handle DISPUTES period – interstate or otherwise. Even if the guy live a block away, the police wouldn’t do anything – well, perhaps they WOULD but as soon as the guy pleaded ignorance, they would have to let him go – they have no evidence. This is a civil matter. Unfortunately, you waited past the 30 day paypal dispute time, and paid with something other than paypal. Maybe others here have other advice, I can only offer advice on the police issue. Evan — To reply, remove TheObvious from my e-mail address.
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hi i’m here to declare i’m officially a victim of a fraud. case: non-delivery of merchandise. item: men’s gold bracelet value: $850 time: happened 1.5 months ago on ebay i have already filed complaints with ebay, paypal, credit card co., and all the ‘internet police’ sites out there. i paid $500 on my credit card, which has been reimbursed…and $350 from my paypal balance. emails were going nowhere. phone calls…again got nowhere, he’s bs’ing excuses. ok, here’s my question: can i phone the police department of the seller, the city’s police department of where the seller lives? i mean surely i can, of course. but do they have and will they have the power to bring this guy into the station for questioning? and possibly make him pay up right there on the spot my losses. or will they just say we don’t do interstate ecommerce disputes? let me know ASAP. thx very much
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