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Thats it for me – Goodbye ebay!

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Ever thought that the problem might not be all the people you’re dealing with here, that the problem might really be you?

*GASP!!!!*  Somewhere in Dumbass, Utah a beam of pure golden light light breaks through the clouds and streaks down from the heavens, transfixing Harris S. Newman in the glow of realization.   "All this time" he thinks "It was ME all this time.I’m the bad guy here! I did something wrong and I got punished for it and lashing out at the world is not going to change any of it!" This little bit of surreal impossibility brought to you by, TS People inside me They’re asking me to blow up city hall, Tenacious D

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Did you notice that when you *did* find the page that discusses surcharges, the title indicates it’s only applicable to PayPal?

Yup (just to be clear to those who can’t find the thing, it doesn’t say it’s okay to charge surcharges with Billpoint, it just fails to acknowledge any kinds of surcharges other than PayPal).  The Billpoint user agreement is also silent on the matter now (it could have always been, I suppose, but I know there was something somewhere a bit clearer on the matter!). The Billpoint stuff in general has gone quite loopy.  A lot of it seems to be the same as the eBay pages with the word "Billpoint" substituting for "eBay," so it says things like "When you list an item for sale on Billpoint…" Deborah Stevenson

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Ever thought that the problem might not be all the people you’re dealing with here, that the problem might really be you? *GASP!!!!* Somewhere in Dumbass, Utah a beam of pure golden light light breaks through the clouds and streaks down from the heavens, transfixing Harris S. Newman in the glow of realization.  "All this time" he thinks "It was ME all this time.I’m the bad guy here! I did something wrong and I got punished for it and lashing out at the world is not going to change any of it!" This little bit of surreal impossibility brought to you by, TS

Harumphhh! *I* am in Dumbass, Utah — Deborah isn’t.   She’s the one of the golden light. Kris

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Perhaps I should have a friend send in a complaint about you…ha, get you suspended … that would be a laugh.  See how you feel being unjustly suspended.

You’re an interesting little piece of work.  The more you post, the easier it is to understand why you’ve been permanently suspended by eBay. —   Ty Who is mostly just a slightly skewed Donna Reed This address is white-listed.  Mail sent to it may ping back to the sender.

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Granted but it would be nice if they could employ people with more than the single (communal) braincell who actuallt read the emails and replied with something more than the nearest pre-prepared reply they could find. Let’s face it they are making enough money to be able to afford even a rudimentary training/recruitment budget

Though that’s probably part of why they *are* so profitable. It is odd, though, they don’t therefore put more thought into their help pages.  If people can easily find answers automatically, they’re a lot less likely to demand the time of customer service departments.  Yet I was just hunting around on the surcharge issue and I have to say that the help section has gotten worse yet again.   Deborah Stevenson

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I love eBay and may start a pro website. If not for eBay, I wouldn’t have made the pile of money I’ve made in the past 4 years. Amen my brutha!!!!  If there was no Ebay, I would still have to work for somebody else. playing by their rules, making all their dreams come true.  I LOVE Ebay. I’ll go with that, but you have to admit their customer service is total shite. OH yeah!  Ebay’s customer service sucks BIG time.  I wish there was something they could do.  In all honesty, I am not sure if it will ever get better though.  I think the money they paid on that jet airplane should have went into a better call center or something. But can you imagine how many e-mails they must get a day?  There are so many buyers and sellers out there whining about SO much, day in…day out.  How can Ebay ever get to the important customer inquiries???

Granted but it would be nice if they could employ people with more than the single (communal) braincell who actuallt read the emails and replied with something more than the nearest pre-prepared reply they could find. Let’s face it they are making enough money to be able to afford even a rudimentary training/recruitment budget — Best Regards Niel Humphreys Snowdon Computers

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – After a week of trying to find out why (I know that it is a TKO notice) I surrender. Ebay’s service is terrible.  Call the 1800 number, they can’t help you. Follow the directions for sending to customer service, get a automated reply. Send a message to their Safe Harber organization, get a automated reply.   Someone already responded to your initial post telling you what "TKO" stood for. It’s the same thing eBay told you in the email notification of your NARU. Don’t plan on being reinstated in this lifetime. i seemed to have missed it, and looking back through the posts i still don’t see it.  what did TKO end up meaning? robert

I didnt see it either

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It is odd, though, they don’t therefore put more thought into their help pages.  If people can easily find answers automatically, they’re a lot less likely to demand the time of customer service departments.  Yet I was just hunting around on the surcharge issue and I have to say that the help section has gotten worse yet again. Deborah Stevenson

Did you notice that when you *did* find the page that discusses surcharges, the title indicates it’s only applicable to PayPal? Kris

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Should and will are two different things.  Your trian of logic is far from strong here.  1) I was not genuinely prepared to lie (my statement of this in pulic shows that also. 2) My suspension for unknown reasons does  not connect in any way to my above statement. Thus, your a very illogical bitch.

Let’s examine your own logic here. 1.  What you stated was "Perhaps I should have a friend send in a complaint about you…ha, get you suspended … that would be a laugh."  Should and would have nothing to do with it, whether it’s a trian of logic, or even if it’s a train. 2.  If you weren’t genuinely prepared to lie, why did you threaten to do exactly that?  Your statements in public show that you were suggesting you thought it would be funny to get someone to lie to try to get someone’s account suspended, for the horrible offense of making the following statement: "I love eBay and may start a pro website. If not for eBay, I wouldn’t have made the pile of money I’ve made in the past 4 years." Would you like to explain your own logic? 3.  Your suspension does relate to your statements in one very simple way.  People who respond to every statement that doesn’t fit their own view of an issue with thinly veiled threats of revenge are people who lack the common sense and maturity to conduct business in any forum, online or traditional.  You’ve shown yourself to fit into that group, therefore regardless of the reason behind your suspension, whether you truly know what it is or not, the eBay community at large is better off without your presence. 4.  I’ve read several hundred of Deborah’s posts in this group, I’ve also read the handful you’ve made.  Deborah has always seemed to make a real effort to be helpful, and is one of the most polite people who post here.  You haven’t made any effort to help anyone, you’ve asked one question, leaving out any real information that might give people any hint of why you got NARUed.  You then posted a tirade about how you were leaving eBay for good, and when someone didn’t jump on your bandwagon, you threatened to try to get someone to lie to get them kicked off eBay.  When you were called on it, you responded by calling Deborah an illogical bitch.  Ever thought that the problem might not be all the people you’re dealing with here, that the problem might really be you? Richard Ward

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Perhaps I should have a friend send in a complaint about you…ha, get you suspended … that would be a laugh.  See how you feel being unjustly suspended.

Have at it nosewipe. Complain away. Sounds to me, with your attitude, your suspension was probably justified.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I love eBay and may start a pro website. If not for eBay, I wouldn’t have made the pile of money I’ve made in the past 4 years. Amen my brutha!!!!  If there was no Ebay, I would still have to work for somebody else. playing by their rules, making all their dreams come true.  I LOVE Ebay.  

most of the time they are ok, other times they are "look at the new boss, same as the old boss" corporate flunkies. robert

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Should and will are two different things.  Your trian of logic is far from strong here.  1) I was not genuinely prepared to lie (my statement of this in pulic shows that also.

It doesn’t show that, actually.  But I’m glad to hear you’re not (a possibility I clearly acknowledged in my use of "If," rather than "Because"). 2) My suspension for unknown reasons does  not connect in any way to my above statement. Thus, your a very illogical bitch.

You’re confusing "just" and "appropriate."  I’m actually a very logical bitch. I’m sorry you’re in this frustrating situation, Harris, hence my small attempt to assist you when you were trying to contact eBay.  However, I think you’re taking your frustration with eBay out on people here, and I don’t think that’s a great idea. Deborah Stevenson

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I love eBay and may start a pro website. If not for eBay, I wouldn’t have made the pile of money I’ve made in the past 4 years. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – After a week of trying to find out why (I know that it is a TKO notice) I surrender. Ebay’s service is terrible.  Call the 1800 number, they can’t help you. Follow the directions for sending to customer service, get a automated reply. Send a message to their Safe Harber organization, get a automated reply. Seems that if someone complains about you on ebay, for whatever reason, you now are permanently suspended from ebay.  No discussions.  No facts.  Just suspension.  This is a great feature for competators! Look for my upcomming website against ebay in the near future!  I will never do business with that organization again, and I will actively tell everyone I know to do the same.  Ebay is run by dictators who don’t care about their customers. Harris Newman .

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – After a week of trying to find out why (I know that it is a TKO notice) I surrender. Ebay’s service is terrible.  Call the 1800 number, they can’t help you. Follow the directions for sending to customer service, get a automated reply. Send a message to their Safe Harber organization, get a automated reply.   Someone already responded to your initial post telling you what "TKO" stood for. It’s the same thing eBay told you in the email notification of your NARU. Don’t plan on being reinstated in this lifetime.

i seemed to have missed it, and looking back through the posts i still don’t see it.  what did TKO end up meaning? robert

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   Someone already responded to your initial post telling you what "TKO" stood for. It’s the same thing eBay told you in the email notification of your NARU. Don’t plan on being reinstated in this lifetime.

Would you mind repeating it?  I must have missed it, and I can’t find it anywhere on teh web site. — "Thus the metric system did not really catch on in the States, unless you count the increasing popularity of the nine-millimeter bullet."- Dave Barry

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I love eBay and may start a pro website. If not for eBay, I wouldn’t have made the pile of money I’ve made in the past 4 years. Amen my brutha!!!!  If there was no Ebay, I would still have to work for somebody else. playing by their rules, making all their dreams come true.  I LOVE Ebay.

I’ll go with that, but you have to admit their customer service is total shite. — Best Regards Niel Humphreys Snowdon Computers

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Perhaps I should have a friend send in a complaint about you…ha, get you suspended … that would be a laugh.  See how you feel being unjustly suspended.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I love eBay and may start a pro website. If not for eBay, I wouldn’t have made the pile of money I’ve made in the past 4 years. After a week of trying to find out why (I know that it is a TKO notice) I surrender. Ebay’s service is terrible.  Call the 1800 number, they can’t help you. Follow the directions for sending to customer service, get a automated reply. Send a message to their Safe Harber organization, get a automated reply. Seems that if someone complains about you on ebay, for whatever reason, you now are permanently suspended from ebay.  No discussions.  No facts. Just suspension.  This is a great feature for competators! Look for my upcomming website against ebay in the near future!  I will never do business with that organization again, and I will actively tell everyone I know to do the same.  Ebay is run by dictators who don’t care about their customers. Harris Newman .

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Perhaps I should have a friend send in a complaint about you…ha, get you suspended … that would be a laugh.  See how you feel being unjustly suspended.

You want to think about the logic of that statement, Harris? If you’re genuinely prepared to lie to get people kicked off of eBay, your suspension doesn’t strike me as unjust. Deborah Stevenson

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Look for my upcomming website against ebay in the near future!  I will never do business with that organization again, and I will actively tell everyone I know to do the same.

I love those hate/gripe sites, please be sure and let us know when you post it.  Never much information on those gripe/hate sites, but what the lack in substance they more than make up for in entertainment. I’m the kind of guy that would stand and listen to the prophets of doom on the downtown street corners.  I always left thinking how grateful I was to be smarter than that.

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Should and will are two different things.  Your trian of logic is far from strong here.  1) I was not genuinely prepared to lie (my statement of this in pulic shows that also. 2) My suspension for unknown reasons does  not connect in any way to my above statement. Thus, your a very illogical bitch.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Perhaps I should have a friend send in a complaint about you…ha, get you suspended … that would be a laugh.  See how you feel being unjustly suspended. You want to think about the logic of that statement, Harris? If you’re genuinely prepared to lie to get people kicked off of eBay, your suspension doesn’t strike me as unjust. Deborah Stevenson

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After a week of trying to find out why (I know that it is a TKO notice) I surrender. Ebay’s service is terrible.  Call the 1800 number, they can’t help you. Follow the directions for sending to customer service, get a automated reply. Send a message to their Safe Harber organization, get a automated reply. Seems that if someone complains about you on ebay, for whatever reason, you now are permanently suspended from ebay.  No discussions.  No facts.  Just suspension.  This is a great feature for competators! Look for my upcomming website against ebay in the near future!  I will never do business with that organization again, and I will actively tell everyone I know to do the same.  Ebay is run by dictators who don’t care about their customers. Harris Newman .

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After a week of trying to find out why (I know that it is a TKO notice) I surrender. Ebay’s service is terrible.  Call the 1800 number, they can’t help you. Follow the directions for sending to customer service, get a automated reply. Send a message to their Safe Harber organization, get a automated reply.

   Someone already responded to your initial post telling you what "TKO" stood for. It’s the same thing eBay told you in the email notification of your NARU. Don’t plan on being reinstated in this lifetime.

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Try Carnaby… http://www.carnaby.com/ – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – After a week of trying to find out why (I know that it is a TKO notice) I surrender. Ebay’s service is terrible.  Call the 1800 number, they can’t help you. Follow the directions for sending to customer service, get a automated reply. Send a message to their Safe Harber organization, get a automated reply. Seems that if someone complains about you on ebay, for whatever reason, you now are permanently suspended from ebay.  No discussions.  No facts.  Just suspension.  This is a great feature for competators! Look for my upcomming website against ebay in the near future!  I will never do business with that organization again, and I will actively tell everyone I know to do the same.  Ebay is run by dictators who don’t care about their customers. Harris Newman .

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Try Carnaby… Great idea, no listings so you don’t sell as much.  No buyers so you don’t have to waste all that time actually selling stuff. Richard Ward

I meant to type, no listings so you don’t buy as much.

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Try Carnaby…

Great idea, no listings so you don’t sell as much.  No buyers so you don’t have to waste all that time actually selling stuff. Richard Ward

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