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: About all you can do at this point is either buy it at his price or refuse to and file a negative feedback. Actually, I’d leave a neg in either circumstance. I hope you kept his e-mail with his original response.
I have never neg’d anyone, and don’t fancy a ret. neg. I have kept all e-mails.
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From the guy’s shipping info page: http://www.homedecoonline.com/ShippingPolicy.html Unfortunately due to warehouse locations and our increased volume we can not allow warehouse pick ups. All items will be shipped through the UPS or Postal service. For the local customer, we have a special shipping rate, please contact us for the actual shipping cost. No excuse if he actually said you could pick it up. I don’t do that very often, because I would have to meet someone at a specific time to give them their stuff. Not worth my time to get paid nothing for something that rarely takes less than an hour of my time. People are late, etc. I have been there. If I were sitting at a desk waiting for people to come over it might be different but my schedule isn’t like that.
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What hez doing is a SURCHARGE and is Illegal its in the ebays rules report him to Ebay – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi I won an auction two days ago for a US$35 item. I had e-mailed the seller TWICE asking if the item could be picked up locally, to avoid hefty shipping charges on this heavy item ( 200lbs+). He replied saying that it wouldn’t be a problem and furnished me with the nearest intersection to him. Turns out he’s about 15 mins away in the car from me, so that totally made my mind up about bidding on the auction. After I won the auction he e-mails me telling me that shipping is US$102. I replied telling him that he agreed that I’d be able to pick it up. He replied with his address and the words "yes you can pick up it and pay CDN$35 as handling fee". I am not going to pay this extortion, but I do want the item, as my 11 year old knows I won it. What can I do? Any comments, good or bad, are welcomed. Auction: <http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=21196&item=360…
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Forward the email (with headers) as part of a "fee avoidance" report to eBay What e-mail addy should I send it to?
You don’t do this via email. I can’t see my previous reply, but I thought I included the link to report this. If I didn’t, I apologize. Here it is. Bookmark it
http://pages.ebay.com/help/basics/select-RS.html Kris
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Hi I won an auction two days ago for a US$35 item. I had e-mailed the seller TWICE asking if the item could be picked up locally, to avoid hefty shipping charges on this heavy item ( 200lbs+). He replied saying that it wouldn’t be a problem and furnished me with the nearest intersection to him. Turns out he’s about 15 mins away in the car from me, so that totally made my mind up about bidding on the auction. After I won the auction he e-mails me telling me that shipping is US$102. I replied telling him that he agreed that I’d be able to pick it up. He replied with his address and the words "yes you can pick up it and pay CDN$35 as handling fee". I am not going to pay this extortion, but I do want the item, as my 11 year old knows I won it. What can I do? Any comments, good or bad, are welcomed. Auction: <http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=21196&item=360…
did you ask about this before or after you bid? not that it really matters he shouldn’t charge a fee anyway. robert "They say that childhood forms us, that those early influences are the key to everything. Is the peace of the soul so easily won? Simply the inevitable result of a happy childhood? What makes childhood happy? Parental harmony? Good health? Security? Might not a happy childhood be the worst possible preparation for life? Like leading a lamb to the slaughter."
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<snip I am not going to pay this extortion, but I do want the item, as my 11 year old knows I won it.
Is the item, or something similar, available elsewhere? Tell the 11 year old that sometimes principle matters, and you won’t do business with someone who goes back on his word. What can I do? Any comments, good or bad, are welcomed.
Inform the seller that he has gone back on his terms as outlined in his e-mails to you and that unless he agrees to allow you to pick it up without the handling fee, you will lodge a complaint with eBay. Yes, you’re risking a neg in all this, but you’ll have to decide if fighting it is worth the risk. In the future, avoid sellers with such lousy positive to negative ratios. 94 percent positive may sound good, but grading on a curve, which is how the eBay seller feedback should be graded, it’s about as bad as it gets. Auction: <http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=21196&item=360…
– David
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: : : : About all you can do at this point is either buy it at his price or refuse : to and file a negative feedback. Actually, I’d leave a neg in either : circumstance. I hope you kept his e-mail with his original response. : : : : I have never neg’d anyone, and don’t fancy a ret. neg. : : I have kept all e-mails. : Well then, by all means, buy it cheerfully and shut up. Weenie.
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Hugh Jass I won an auction two days ago for a US$35 item. I had e-mailed the seller TWICE asking if the item could be picked up locally, to avoid hefty shipping charges on this heavy item ( 200lbs+). He replied saying that it wouldn’t be a
problem and But did he say it would be no charge? It is not unusual for sellers to charge such a fee for local pickup. Note that the fact that I say it is not unusual does not mean I endorse this practice (though for a 200 lb item it seems somewhat more understandable — I can imagine that there might be a lot of handling work involved yet), but I would just pay the fee. In any case I wouldn’t say he’s trying to rip you off. He has a policy you don’t like (it might even just be an all-around bad/unfair policy) and his communication could be more complete but I don’t think it sounds like there is any malicious intent here. Have you tried calmly addressing it with him? What payment method are you using? If you tell him you will pay with cash when you pick it up, this might help.
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I am not going to pay this extortion, but I do want the item, as my 11 year old knows I won it.
Don’t pay for the item. Let the seller neg you (or possibly capitulate to the original terms and then neg you). There is something more important at stake here — the example you’re setting to your child. Explain to your kid the principle of honor and why you can’t go through with the transaction. Then, buy the item elsewhere. It doesn’t appear to be that uncommon. Even if you end up paying more for it than the original cost plus the "handling fee", it’s worth it to raise your child with honor. Don’t sell your integrity out for a basketball hoop. Steve Silberberg Steve’s Tiny Book of Romance http://www.callipygianproductions.com/stbor/stbor.html "For man so feared his ignorance, that he created god in his image"-Eric 3:16
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Then, buy the item elsewhere. It doesn’t appear to be that uncommon. Even if you end up paying more for it than the original cost plus the "handling fee", it’s worth it to raise your child with honor.
That’s the way I’ll play it. It’s the principal of the sly handling fee that is pissing me off. If it was mentioned beforehand I would have taken it into account. Don’t sell your integrity out for a basketball hoop.
Hahaha, I won’t.
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It’s no different than reading a contract, saying you are changing a point of it, but signing it unchanged because the other party was made aware of the point you wanted to change. If there is a problem and you take the contract to court, the judge will say that if the change is not included in the contract you signed, it isn’t valid.
True So, the OP doesn’t really have a leg to stand on…
Doesn’t this contradict what you said in the above paragraph?
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The OP (the buyer) refuses to pay the listed s/h (as per the contract/listing) because they want to pick it up for free (not an option listed in the auction). That is the modification they want.
The OP ( i.e. me), refuses to pay the shipping, there was never any mention of a handling charge, either in the auction or in e-mails. Therefore, no modification. The seller wants the OP/buyer to pay the handling part of the s/h, if the item is picked up. That is the modification they want.
Correct, except there was never a handling charge mentioned anywhere. Does that make sense? Maybe my wording is a little clearer this time, because this is what I meant before. ;-)
Yes, I see your point
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Forward the email (with headers) as part of a "fee avoidance" report to eBay
What e-mail addy should I send it to? But….based on his feedback, I don’t think he’ll care. I’m sure it’s not the first time.
All the more reason to report it, if he keeps doing it, they may have enough. This would have been enough to scare me away: Feedback rating: 4538 with 94.4% positive
I wouldn’t have bid if I couldn’t have picked it up. I thought I could just go around and meet the dude.
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: Hi : : I won an auction two days ago for a US$35 item. I had e-mailed the seller TWICE : asking if the item could be picked up locally, to avoid hefty shipping charges on : this heavy item ( 200lbs+). He replied saying that it wouldn’t be a problem and : furnished me with the nearest intersection to him. Turns out he’s about 15 mins : away in the car from me, so that totally made my mind up about bidding on the : auction. : : After I won the auction he e-mails me telling me that shipping is US$102. I replied : telling him that he agreed that I’d be able to pick it up. He replied with his address : and the words "yes you can pick up it and pay CDN$35 as handling fee". : : I am not going to pay this extortion, but I do want the item, as my 11 year old : knows I won it. : : What can I do? Any comments, good or bad, are welcomed. : : Auction: : : <http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=21196&item=360… 5 : : About all you can do at this point is either buy it at his price or refuse to and file a negative feedback. Actually, I’d leave a neg in either circumstance. I hope you kept his e-mail with his original response.
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Hi I won an auction two days ago for a US$35 item. I had e-mailed the seller TWICE asking if the item could be picked up locally, to avoid hefty shipping charges on this heavy item ( 200lbs+). He replied saying that it wouldn’t be a problem and furnished me with the nearest intersection to him. Turns out he’s about 15 mins away in the car from me, so that totally made my mind up about bidding on the auction. After I won the auction he e-mails me telling me that shipping is US$102. I replied telling him that he agreed that I’d be able to pick it up. He replied with his address and the words "yes you can pick up it and pay CDN$35 as handling fee". I am not going to pay this extortion, but I do want the item, as my 11 year old knows I won it. What can I do? Any comments, good or bad, are welcomed. Auction: <http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=21196&item=360…
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi I won an auction two days ago for a US$35 item. I had e-mailed the seller TWICE asking if the item could be picked up locally, to avoid hefty shipping charges on this heavy item ( 200lbs+). He replied saying that it wouldn’t be a problem and furnished me with the nearest intersection to him. Turns out he’s about 15 mins away in the car from me, so that totally made my mind up about bidding on the auction. After I won the auction he e-mails me telling me that shipping is US$102. I replied telling him that he agreed that I’d be able to pick it up. He replied with his address and the words "yes you can pick up it and pay CDN$35 as handling fee". I am not going to pay this extortion, but I do want the item, as my 11 year old knows I won it. What can I do? Any comments, good or bad, are welcomed. Auction:
<http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=21196&item=360… 5 Forward the email (with headers) as part of a "fee avoidance" report to eBay But….based on his feedback, I don’t think he’ll care. I’m sure it’s not the first time. This would have been enough to scare me away: Feedback rating: 4538 with 94.4% positive Feedback Summary 7879 positives. 4818 are from unique users. 311 neutrals. 366 negatives. 284 are from unique users. He has 5418 unique feedbacks, of which 595 are neutral or negative. That’s **way** over 10% …. actually, it’s 10.99205%
Kris
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