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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I know this was rumored a few days ago, but eBay and Skype both have official announcements on their sites.  Not sure why this makes sense for eBay or Skype, but it seems there is a lot of consolidation going on (Yahoo! and Konfabulator, Google and countless technologies).  Any ideas on how eBay can leverage this to their benefit? Meg says that buyers and sellers being able to talk to each other for free is going to be a big boost. Hell, they do everything in their power not to keep buyers and sellers from sending each other email. For four billion plus another billion in consolidation costs she could have given pre-paid cell phones to the top 500,000 ebay buyers and sellers for a long time. I guarantee you she thinks sellers and buyers are all going to learn either Chinese or English and make it work. This is going to be a goat fuck of Biblical proportions.

Just look at eBay’s track record. Everybody they parnter with fails. Everybody they buy outright, they screw up.  Skype doesn’t have a chance.  I wish they had just bought HumanClick. That was useful. A

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Just look at eBay’s track record. Everybody they parnter with fails. Everybody they buy outright, they screw up.  Skype doesn’t have a chance.  I wish they had just bought HumanClick. That was useful.

Then why would you want it screwed up?

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I know this was rumored a few days ago, but eBay and Skype both have official announcements on their sites.  Not sure why this makes sense for eBay or Skype, but it seems there is a lot of consolidation going on (Yahoo! and Konfabulator, Google and countless technologies).  Any ideas on how eBay can leverage this to their benefit?

Maybe they’re going to allow liquor sales again… "A recent survey by Harris Interactive commissioned by Verizon found that 87 percent of respondents didn’t know what VoIP was. Twenty percent thought it was a European hybrid motorcar and 10 percent, said it was a low-carb vodka." <http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/2002490627_s…

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Just look at eBay’s track record. Everybody they parnter with fails. Everybody they buy outright, they screw up.  Skype doesn’t have a chance.  

My girlfriend Skype’d me today and a formerly flawless connection now fails as audio on our call was persistently non-existent. Steve Silberberg Read "We’ll Kiss For Food" http://www.kissforfood.com/

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My girlfriend Skype’d me today and a formerly flawless connection now fails as audio on our call was persistently non-existent.

I have a great response to this that I ain’t even gonna post.

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 Fixed font – Proportional font  eBay and Skype All 11 messages in topic – view as tree  David Fortin   Sep 12, 10:21 am     show options Newsgroups: alt.marketing.online.ebay this author Reply | Reply to Author | Forward | Print | Individual Message | Show original | Report Abuse I know this was rumored a few days ago, but eBay and Skype both have official announcements on their sites.  Not sure why this makes sense for eBay or Skype, but it seems there is a lot of consolidation going on (Yahoo! and Konfabulator, Google and countless technologies).  Any ideas on how eBay can leverage this to their benefit? Reply  BrotherBart   Sep 12, 10:30 am     show options Newsgroups: alt.marketing.online.ebay this author Reply | Reply to Author | Forward | Print | Individual Message | Show original | Report Abuse I know this was rumored a few days ago, but eBay and Skype both have official announcements on their sites.  Not sure why this makes sense for eBay or Skype, but it seems there is a lot of consolidation going on (Yahoo! and Konfabulator, Google and countless technologies).  Any ideas on how eBay can leverage this to their benefit?

Nope. And as I said a few days ago this is one of those "we gotta keep growing" moves that companies live to regret. A lot of stock analysts are agreeing. eBay is debt free right now but their purchase price for Skype is roughly equivalent to their cash reserves so this is a pivotal move for them given what they are spending going down on the Chinese. Of course their logic will be that if they need money they can always go back to the eBay U.S. well for increases. Reply  ronald   Sep 12, 10:48 am     show options Newsgroups: alt.marketing.online.ebay Reply | Reply to Author | Forward | Print | Individual Message | Show original | Report Abuse – Hide quoted text – – Show quoted text – I know this was rumored a few days ago, but eBay and Skype both have official announcements on their sites.  Not sure why this makes sense for eBay or Skype, but it seems there is a lot of consolidation going on (Yahoo! and Konfabulator, Google and countless technologies).  Any ideas on how eBay can leverage this to their benefit? Nope. And as I said a few days ago this is one of those "we gotta keep growing" moves that companies live to regret. A lot of stock analysts are agreeing. eBay is debt free right now but their purchase price for Skype is roughly equivalent to their cash reserves so this is a pivotal move for them given what they are spending going down on the Chinese. Of course their logic will be that if they need money they can always go back to the eBay U.S. well for increases.

You are 100% right on. All this proves is that there is little room for growth in the current eBay business model.  I expect eBay shares below $20 within 9 months. ron Reply  tiktak   Sep 12, 6:50 pm     show options Newsgroups: alt.marketing.online.ebay author Reply | Reply to Author | Forward | Print | Individual Message | Show original | Report Abuse

– Hide quoted text – – Show quoted text – – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I know this was rumored a few days ago, but eBay and Skype both have official announcements on their sites.  Not sure why this makes sense for eBay or Skype, but it seems there is a lot of consolidation going on (Yahoo! and Konfabulator, Google and countless technologies).  Any ideas on how eBay can leverage this to their benefit? Nope. And as I said a few days ago this is one of those "we gotta keep growing" moves that companies live to regret. A lot of stock analysts are agreeing. eBay is debt free right now but their purchase price for Skype is roughly equivalent to their cash reserves so this is a pivotal move for them given what they are spending going down on the Chinese. Of course their logic will be that if they need money they can always go back to the eBay U.S. well for increases.

its unlikley big moves like this on behalf of big players like this are not well thought out and considered beforehand.  when you and I consider 2 options, the ebay team, with countless finance or market analysts have considred 200 options. they may have left out one or two, but chances are they were left out because not very relevant. in short: this was no mistake. Reply  Dhakala   Sep 12, 7:20 pm     show options Newsgroups: alt.marketing.online.ebay author Reply | Reply to Author | Forward | Print | Individual Message | Show original | Report Abuse – Hide quoted text – – Show quoted text – – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I know this was rumored a few days ago, but eBay and Skype both have official announcements on their sites.  Not sure why this makes sense for eBay or Skype, but it seems there is a lot of consolidation going on (Yahoo! and Konfabulator, Google and countless technologies).  Any ideas on how eBay can leverage this to their benefit? Nope. And as I said a few days ago this is one of those "we gotta keep growing" moves that companies live to regret. A lot of stock analysts are agreeing. eBay is debt free right now but their purchase price for Skype is roughly equivalent to their cash reserves so this is a pivotal move for them given what they are spending going down on the Chinese. Of course their logic will be that if they need money they can always go back to the eBay U.S. well for increases. its unlikley big moves like this on behalf of big players like this are not well thought out and considered beforehand.  when you and I consider 2 options, the ebay team, with countless finance or market analysts have considred 200 options. they may have left out one or two, but chances are they were left out because not very relevant. in short: this was no mistake.

Tiktak, my little numpty, it is much more difficult to select the correct option from among hundreds than from a handful. Furthermore, as Rene Des Cartes noted, "In the matter of a difficult question, it is more likely that the correct answer will be derived by the few than by the many." (So much for democracy.) Therefore, I, and I alone, have decided that eBay’s purchase of Skype makes perfect synergistic sense, relying on the first idea that came to my beautiful mind. (No, not Barbara Bush.) Skype’s software has been downloaded 100 million times. Over 35 million people have registered the software, indicating significant affinity for it. Skype users have logged over 7 billion calling minutes in less than two years. Skype is most used by international traders, who labor under hideous phone rates. eBay is keenly interested in international trade. Google images of Skype’s screens and see where links to "hot items" might be inserted. Reply  Angrie.Woman   Sep 12, 8:31 pm     show options Newsgroups: alt.marketing.online.ebay author Reply | Reply to Author | Forward | Print | Individual Message | Show original | Report Abuse – Hide quoted text – – Show quoted text – – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I know this was rumored a few days ago, but eBay and Skype both have official announcements on their sites.  Not sure why this makes sense for eBay or Skype, but it seems there is a lot of consolidation going on (Yahoo! and Konfabulator, Google and countless technologies).  Any ideas on how eBay can leverage this to their benefit? Nope. And as I said a few days ago this is one of those "we gotta keep growing" moves that companies live to regret. A lot of stock analysts are agreeing. eBay is debt free right now but their purchase price for Skype is roughly equivalent to their cash reserves so this is a pivotal move for them given what they are spending going down on the Chinese. Of course their logic will be that if they need money they can always go back to the eBay U.S. well for increases. its unlikley big moves like this on behalf of big players like this are not well thought out and considered beforehand.  when you and I consider 2 options, the ebay team, with countless finance or market analysts have considred 200 options. they may have left out one or two, but chances are they were left out because not very relevant. in short: this was no mistake. Tiktak, my little numpty, it is much more difficult to select the correct option from among hundreds than from a handful. Furthermore, as Rene Des Cartes noted, "In the matter of a difficult question, it is more likely that the correct answer will be derived by the few than by the many." (So much for democracy.)

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Any ideas on how eBay can leverage this to their benefit?

This from news.com: "The auction site would likely collect fees from sellers on a "pay per call" basis, wherein sellers would pay each time a customer called them via Skype, or through a flat amount paid in exchange for a link to the merchant’s Skype contact information on his product’s page, said eBay spokesman Hani Durzy." Anyone watch "Crank Yankers" on Comedy Central? :-) I don’t want clueless newbies, trolls, and kids calling me, especially on my nickel. Let me offer my Skype address only to people who have purchased something from me and/or who are on my whitelist. "In a sample screenshot shown during the presentation, the username of a Skype-enabled seller would display whether he or she was online." No, it would display whether he or she had Skype running while he or she is in the shower. "The buyer could click on the name and contact the seller without having to leave the eBay site and without either party having to reveal a private phone number, Whitman said." I wonder if a Skype address could replace phone number for eBay registration purposes? If not, this benefit is illusory. "Right now, e-mail is the primary means for such communications. eBay users send about 5 million messages each day in total." And we all know how fast people respond to those. "Whitman said she hopes the service will accelerate sales in categories–such as cars, business and industry equipment, and collectibles–that generate a lot of inquiries. "Imagine searching for an Audi Quattro," she said. "You have a lot of questions about previous repairs, but the listing ends in three hours, which is probably not enough time to e-mail and get a detailed response. Wouldn’t it be nice to Skype link?" " No, it wouldn’t. If the seller can’t email a repair history promptly, he can’t rattle it off the top of his head in a Skype call. Conversations would be totally undocumented unless one devotes gigabytes of disk space to recordings. But of course, eBay and PayPal won’t accept file attachments, so recordings are useless with them in any subsequent dispute. Advertising, Meg. Think advertising and nothing else. All of the above is bullshit – except the parts I wrote, of course.

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The majority of the worlds population can now understand English.

Not when it’s spoken by someone from another country! at first I was frustrated when speaking with Vietnamese on the phone and they called frequently.

Same here. Then I got my number on the no-call list. After a while I just started speaking without pronouns and I was understood

I thought you said they could learn English?

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Meg says that buyers and sellers being able to talk to each other for free is going to be a big boost…

Frank has a previous business relationship with a bunch of buyers. I can only guess what this phone thing will mean to him.   "Hello?" Craig

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For four billion plus another billion in consolidation costs she could have given pre-paid cell phones to the top 500,000 ebay buyers and sellers for a long time. I guarantee you she thinks sellers and buyers are all going to learn either Chinese or English and make it work. This is going to be a goat fuck of Biblical proportions.

I disagree.  The majority of the worlds population can now understand English.  It’s only small pockets of rural areas in many countries that have no clue and they are usually the older population. Around 15-20 years ago, schools in most countries started teaching it.  If the Japanese can speak it, anybody can. If speaking to Asians; just remember to cut out pronouns when you talk to them and you will have no problem communicating with them.  I worked in a call centre 11 years ago, at first I was frustrated when speaking with Vietnamese on the phone and they called frequently.  After a while I just started speaking without pronouns and I was understood and was able to complete the calls without any communication problems.  The same goes for all Asians.

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I know this was rumored a few days ago, but eBay and Skype both have official announcements on their sites.  Not sure why this makes sense for eBay or Skype, but it seems there is a lot of consolidation going on (Yahoo! and Konfabulator, Google and countless technologies).  Any ideas on how eBay can leverage this to their benefit?

Meg says that buyers and sellers being able to talk to each other for free is going to be a big boost. Hell, they do everything in their power not to keep buyers and sellers from sending each other email. For four billion plus another billion in consolidation costs she could have given pre-paid cell phones to the top 500,000 ebay buyers and sellers for a long time. I guarantee you she thinks sellers and buyers are all going to learn either Chinese or English and make it work. This is going to be a goat fuck of Biblical proportions.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I know this was rumored a few days ago, but eBay and Skype both have official announcements on their sites.  Not sure why this makes sense for eBay or Skype, but it seems there is a lot of consolidation going on (Yahoo! and Konfabulator, Google and countless technologies).  Any ideas on how eBay can leverage this to their benefit? Nope. And as I said a few days ago this is one of those "we gotta keep growing" moves that companies live to regret. A lot of stock analysts are agreeing. eBay is debt free right now but their purchase price for Skype is roughly equivalent to their cash reserves so this is a pivotal move for them given what they are spending going down on the Chinese. Of course their logic will be that if they need money they can always go back to the eBay U.S. well for increases. its unlikley big moves like this on behalf of big players like this are not well thought out and considered beforehand.  when you and I consider 2 options, the ebay team, with countless finance or market analysts have considred 200 options. they may have left out one or two, but chances are they were left out because not very relevant. in short: this was no mistake. Tiktak, my little numpty, it is much more difficult to select the correct option from among hundreds than from a handful. Furthermore, as Rene Des Cartes noted, "In the matter of a difficult question, it is more likely that the correct answer will be derived by the few than by the many." (So much for democracy.) Therefore, I, and I alone, have decided that eBay’s purchase of Skype makes perfect synergistic sense, relying on the first idea that came to my beautiful mind. (No, not Barbara Bush.) Skype’s software has been downloaded 100 million times. Over 35 million people have registered the software, indicating significant affinity for it. Skype users have logged over 7 billion calling minutes in less than two years. Skype is most used by international traders, who labor under hideous phone rates. eBay is keenly interested in international trade. Google images of Skype’s screens and see where links to "hot items" might be inserted.

I think that eBay is trying to be Google. Google just bought some telecommunications company too, IIRC. A

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I know this was rumored a few days ago, but eBay and Skype both have official announcements on their sites.  Not sure why this makes sense for eBay or Skype, but it seems there is a lot of consolidation going on (Yahoo! and Konfabulator, Google and countless technologies).  Any ideas on how eBay can leverage this to their benefit? Nope. And as I said a few days ago this is one of those "we gotta keep growing" moves that companies live to regret. A lot of stock analysts are agreeing. eBay is debt free right now but their purchase price for Skype is roughly equivalent to their cash reserves so this is a pivotal move for them given what they are spending going down on the Chinese. Of course their logic will be that if they need money they can always go back to the eBay U.S. well for increases. its unlikley big moves like this on behalf of big players like this are not well thought out and considered beforehand.  when you and I consider 2 options, the ebay team, with countless finance or market analysts have considred 200 options. they may have left out one or two, but chances are they were left out because not very relevant. in short: this was no mistake.

Tiktak, my little numpty, it is much more difficult to select the correct option from among hundreds than from a handful. Furthermore, as Rene Des Cartes noted, "In the matter of a difficult question, it is more likely that the correct answer will be derived by the few than by the many." (So much for democracy.) Therefore, I, and I alone, have decided that eBay’s purchase of Skype makes perfect synergistic sense, relying on the first idea that came to my beautiful mind. (No, not Barbara Bush.) Skype’s software has been downloaded 100 million times. Over 35 million people have registered the software, indicating significant affinity for it. Skype users have logged over 7 billion calling minutes in less than two years. Skype is most used by international traders, who labor under hideous phone rates. eBay is keenly interested in international trade. Google images of Skype’s screens and see where links to "hot items" might be inserted.

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I know this was rumored a few days ago, but eBay and Skype both have official announcements on their sites.  Not sure why this makes sense for eBay or Skype, but it seems there is a lot of consolidation going on (Yahoo! and Konfabulator, Google and countless technologies).  Any ideas on how eBay can leverage this to their benefit?

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I know this was rumored a few days ago, but eBay and Skype both have official announcements on their sites.  Not sure why this makes sense for eBay or Skype, but it seems there is a lot of consolidation going on (Yahoo! and Konfabulator, Google and countless technologies).  Any ideas on how eBay can leverage this to their benefit?

Nope. And as I said a few days ago this is one of those "we gotta keep growing" moves that companies live to regret. A lot of stock analysts are agreeing. eBay is debt free right now but their purchase price for Skype is roughly equivalent to their cash reserves so this is a pivotal move for them given what they are spending going down on the Chinese. Of course their logic will be that if they need money they can always go back to the eBay U.S. well for increases.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I know this was rumored a few days ago, but eBay and Skype both have official announcements on their sites.  Not sure why this makes sense for eBay or Skype, but it seems there is a lot of consolidation going on (Yahoo! and Konfabulator, Google and countless technologies).  Any ideas on how eBay can leverage this to their benefit? Nope. And as I said a few days ago this is one of those "we gotta keep growing" moves that companies live to regret. A lot of stock analysts are agreeing. eBay is debt free right now but their purchase price for Skype is roughly equivalent to their cash reserves so this is a pivotal move for them given what they are spending going down on the Chinese. Of course their logic will be that if they need money they can always go back to the eBay U.S. well for increases.

You are 100% right on. All this proves is that there is little room for growth in the current eBay business model.  I expect eBay shares below $20 within 9 months. ron

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I know this was rumored a few days ago, but eBay and Skype both have official announcements on their sites.  Not sure why this makes sense for eBay or Skype, but it seems there is a lot of consolidation going on (Yahoo! and Konfabulator, Google and countless technologies).  Any ideas on how eBay can leverage this to their benefit? Nope. And as I said a few days ago this is one of those "we gotta keep growing" moves that companies live to regret. A lot of stock analysts are agreeing. eBay is debt free right now but their purchase price for Skype is roughly equivalent to their cash reserves so this is a pivotal move for them given what they are spending going down on the Chinese. Of course their logic will be that if they need money they can always go back to the eBay U.S. well for increases.

its unlikley big moves like this on behalf of big players like this are not well thought out and considered beforehand.  when you and I consider 2 options, the ebay team, with countless finance or market analysts have considred 200 options. they may have left out one or two, but chances are they were left out because not very relevant. in short: this was no mistake.

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