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I agree, i actually got my paypal account suspended for a couple of days because of that book, I guess i learned my lesson not to mess around with copyright issues. Anyways, i will no longer sell these ebooks, but what i was really wondering is, am I allowed to make my own compilation CD (if i self-publish it) containing public domain? (i.e. public domain has no copyright) For e.g. while doing my research, http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3522578347&categor… Would this be legal? All of these books belong to public domain, would this be a okay if I make my own compilation CD just like what this person did?
Assuming that you’re correctly assessing what is and isn’t public domain, which is a somewhat daring assumption, note that this auction has bombed. That’s the problem–if it’s public domain, the material is being acquired from freely downloadable sources. Why would someone pay you rather than download the material for free? I think the odds against your making more than the cost of the CD back are considerable. Deborah Stevenson
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that you can’t be too ambiguous If any intellectual property was recently rendered in tangible form in the US, it IS automatically covered by copyright. There is thus far less public domain material than you think. Are you saying that any publisher who publishes an out of copyright book automatically becomes the copyright owner of that work? This would create a minefield as numerous publishers re-publish classics on a regular basis all over the world!
What Don is saying is that new creations are automatically copyrighted when rendered into tangible form, without the need for registration. He is not saying that older works can be copyrighted by someone else. There some workarounds, however, that do give a form of protection to such republication. Publishers can and do add copyrightable material to their published versions of public domain works, so you cannot republish that version in its entirety. Some examples that I think of off the top of my head: * Translations of public domain works. * Public domain books with new or copyrighted illustrations. If I print a copy of the Iliad (using a public domain translation) but add my own illustrations, you cannot republish the work as-is. * Introductions, reviews, annotations to public domain works. If my book of Shakespeare’s plays includes new introductions, footnotes I’ve created, or other material, you can’t use the work. * Added music or other enhancements. Some old movies are in the public domain;, but their sound tracks may not be, so you’d better not copy the movie and try to sell it. I believe this is how It’s A Wonderful Life was given new copyright life. The studio neglected to renew the copyright on the movie, but the copyright on the music was still in force, so every TV station in the country was forced to stop showing this film (for free) dozens of times every holiday season. I’m sure there are more.
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – how did you find out who i was?? Do a search by seller, and use your email address. hee hee hee…I like the "get any woman in bed" auction…lol! 3rd or 4th feedback….dude, if yer already doing this why ask? I really don’t understand why he wants to bother. I mean, is it really worthwhile to list an auction that closes for $0.21 with no shipping, even if eBay would let you do it? The only one that didn’t lose money was the Satanic Bible by Anton LeVey. I’ve got the feeling he didn’t really have the right to sell this one at all, so I’d imagine Wehman Brothers, who published the hardcover edition, or Avon, who published the paperback, might be just a bit upset if they found out. agree, i actually got my paypal account suspended for a couple of days because of that book, I guess i learned my lesson not to mess around with copyright issues. Anyways, i will no longer sell these ebooks, but what i was really wondering is, am I allowed to make my own compilation CD (if i self-publish it) containing public domain? (i.e. public domain has no copyright) For e.g. while doing my research, http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3522578347&categor… Would this be legal? All of these books belong to public domain, would this be a okay if I make my own compilation CD just like what this person did? If so, what is the requirement to self-publish your own CDROM? Thanks , Andrew M.
If any intellectual property was recently rendered in tangible form in the US, it IS automatically covered by copyright. There is thus far less public domain material than you think. Further, you are not allowed to sell ANY CD-R on eBay unless you PERSONALLY hold the copyright to ALL content. Even then, you are quite likely to be hassled. — Many thanks, Don Lancaster Synergetics 3860 West First Street Box 809 Thatcher, AZ 85552 Please visit my GURU’s LAIR web site at http://www.tinaja.com
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nono, im not planning to sell what they are selling or am worried about making profit or not, I just wanted to get more information about this sort of thing so IF i wanted to sell anything of this manner, I wouldn’t have to worry about breaking any policies. thanks
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I agree, i actually got my paypal account suspended for a couple of days because of that book, I guess i learned my lesson not to mess around with copyright issues. Anyways, i will no longer sell these ebooks, but what i was really wondering is, am I allowed to make my own compilation CD (if i self-publish it) containing public domain? (i.e. public domain has no copyright) For e.g. while doing my research,
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3522578347&categor… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Would this be legal? All of these books belong to public domain, would this be a okay if I make my own compilation CD just like what this person did? If so, what is the requirement to self-publish your own CDROM? Thanks , Andrew M. Andrew, wouldn’t the real question be "Can I make money after doing all this work?" Right now, that auction has less than a day to go and has no bids even at $4.95. It looks like they’ve listed 350 auctions in the past 14 days, and about have sold (or have bids) – and I don’t see anything selling for more than $5.88. Do the math. Even the $2 shipping fee isn’t going to add much profit. Kris
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – how did you find out who i was?? Do a search by seller, and use your email address. hee hee hee…I like the "get any woman in bed" auction…lol! 3rd or 4th feedback….dude, if yer already doing this why ask? I really don’t understand why he wants to bother. I mean, is it really worthwhile to list an auction that closes for $0.21 with no shipping, even if eBay would let you do it? The only one that didn’t lose money was the Satanic Bible by Anton LeVey. I’ve got the feeling he didn’t really have the right to sell this one at all, so I’d imagine Wehman Brothers, who published the hardcover edition, or Avon, who published the paperback, might be just a bit upset if they found out.
agree, i actually got my paypal account suspended for a couple of days because of that book, I guess i learned my lesson not to mess around with copyright issues. Anyways, i will no longer sell these ebooks, but what i was really wondering is, am I allowed to make my own compilation CD (if i self-publish it) containing public domain? (i.e. public domain has no copyright) For e.g. while doing my research, http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3522578347&categor… Would this be legal? All of these books belong to public domain, would this be a okay if I make my own compilation CD just like what this person did? If so, what is the requirement to self-publish your own CDROM? Thanks , Andrew M.
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how did you find out who i was?? Do a search by seller, and use your email address.
hee hee hee…I like the "get any woman in bed" auction…lol! 3rd or 4th feedback….dude, if yer already doing this why ask?
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – how did you find out who i was?? Do a search by seller, and use your email address. hee hee hee…I like the "get any woman in bed" auction…lol! 3rd or 4th feedback….dude, if yer already doing this why ask?
I really don’t understand why he wants to bother. I mean, is it really worthwhile to list an auction that closes for $0.21 with no shipping, even if eBay would let you do it? The only one that didn’t lose money was the Satanic Bible by Anton LeVey. I’ve got the feeling he didn’t really have the right to sell this one at all, so I’d imagine Wehman Brothers, who published the hardcover edition, or Avon, who published the paperback, might be just a bit upset if they found out.
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I agree, i actually got my paypal account suspended for a couple of days because of that book, I guess i learned my lesson not to mess around with copyright issues. Anyways, i will no longer sell these ebooks, but what i was really wondering is, am I allowed to make my own compilation CD (if i self-publish it) containing public domain? (i.e. public domain has no copyright) For e.g. while doing my research, http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3522578347&categor… Would this be legal? All of these books belong to public domain, would this be a okay if I make my own compilation CD just like what this person did? If so, what is the requirement to self-publish your own CDROM? Thanks , Andrew M.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – how did you find out who i was?? Do a search by seller, and use your email address. hee hee hee…I like the "get any woman in bed" auction…lol! 3rd or 4th feedback….dude, if yer already doing this why ask? I really don’t understand why he wants to bother. I mean, is it really worthwhile to list an auction that closes for $0.21 with no shipping, even if eBay would let you do it? The only one that didn’t lose money was the Satanic Bible by Anton LeVey. I’ve got the feeling he didn’t really have the right to sell this one at all, so I’d imagine Wehman Brothers, who published the hardcover edition, or Avon, who published the paperback, might be just a bit upset if they found out.
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I agree, i actually got my paypal account suspended for a couple of days because of that book, I guess i learned my lesson not to mess around with copyright issues. Anyways, i will no longer sell these ebooks, but what i was really wondering is, am I allowed to make my own compilation CD (if i self-publish it) containing public domain? (i.e. public domain has no copyright) For e.g. while doing my research,
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3522578347&categor… Would this be legal? All of these books belong to public domain, would this be a okay if I make my own compilation CD just like what this person did? If so, what is the requirement to self-publish your own CDROM? Thanks , Andrew M.
Andrew, wouldn’t the real question be "Can I make money after doing all this work?" Right now, that auction has less than a day to go and has no bids even at $4.95. It looks like they’ve listed 350 auctions in the past 14 days, and about have sold (or have bids) – and I don’t see anything selling for more than $5.88. Do the math. Even the $2 shipping fee isn’t going to add much profit. Kris
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Is it still okay to sell them if you stick it all into a CD such that it is no longer a downloadable product? Nope. eBay also has a rule against selling recordable media unless it’s blank, or unless you own the copyright.
But the TRUTH is "If they don’t catch you, they won’t do anything" Those who are caught, usually lose all auctions and in some cases get their accounts suspended/NARU’d And the reason they get caught, is that sellers of similar items tattle on them.
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Is it also illegal to sell / buy feedback? e.g. giving something away such as a free recipe for $0.65 in exchange of a feedback?
I’m a little startled. You’ve got over 1000 feedbacks. That’s a lot of eBaying to have without knowing this one. It’s against eBay’s rules to sell/buy feedback. It looks like you might find it useful to read eBay’s rules in general. This is a good page to use as a table of contents: <http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/topics_static.html and here’s the page specifically on restricted and prohibited items: <http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/items-ov.html Deborah Stevenson
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the books he is selling are all of the usual ones that really have no copyright. hell who would admit to writing them (G) usually you get the full reprint rights for only 19.99 — Knight-Toolworks & Custom Planes Custom made wooden planes at reasonable prices See http://www.knight-toolworks.com For prices and ordering instructions.
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the books he is selling are all of the usual ones that really have no copyright.
Unless the owner released all rights, they do indeed have a copyright. hell who would admit to writing them (G) usually you get the full reprint rights for only 19.99
Which may be an additional way for somebody to sell something they don’t have. Not that I disagree about the owning up to authorship part
. But heck, the same is true for a lot of things that make a ton of money. Deborah Stevenson
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how did you find out who i was??
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Is it also illegal to sell / buy feedback? e.g. giving something away such as a free recipe for $0.65 in exchange of a feedback? I’m a little startled. You’ve got over 1000 feedbacks. That’s a lot of eBaying to have without knowing this one. It’s against eBay’s rules to sell/buy feedback. It looks like you might find it useful to read eBay’s rules in general. This is a good page to use as a table of contents: <http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/topics_static.html and here’s the page specifically on restricted and prohibited items: <http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/items-ov.html Deborah Stevenson
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – how did you find out who i was?? Is it also illegal to sell / buy feedback? e.g. giving something away such as a free recipe for $0.65 in exchange of a feedback? I’m a little startled. You’ve got over 1000 feedbacks. That’s a lot of eBaying to have without knowing this one. It’s against eBay’s rules to sell/buy feedback. It looks like you might find it useful to read eBay’s rules in general. This is a good page to use as a table of contents: <http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/topics_static.html and here’s the page specifically on restricted and prohibited items: <http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/items-ov.html Deborah Stevenson
Do a search by seller, and use your email address. Richard Ward
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how did you find out who i was??
By reading the part where you told us
. I know you said you were off of eBay for awhile, but some of this stuff was against the rules a long time ago. And if you’re trying to refamiliarize yourself, reading the restricted list is a really good idea, much better than finding out what’s prohibited when eBay kicks you off for doing it. Deborah Stevenson
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Is it okay to sell eBooks such as those that are compilation of information? eg. eBay marketing secrets 2002 eBay credit secrets 2001 6000+ ebooks package etc, etc, etc……. I see many sellers selling these eBooks but is it allowed by eBay?
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Is it okay to sell eBooks such as those that are compilation of information? eg. eBay marketing secrets 2002 eBay credit secrets 2001 6000+ ebooks package etc, etc, etc……. I see many sellers selling these eBooks but is it allowed by eBay?
These are specifically banned under the downloadable media policy: http://pages.ebay.com/help/index_popup.html?policies=downloadable.html If you aren’t the copyright owner, you can’t sell downloadable media. For what it’s worth, why would you want to sell this crap anyway? You’ll be much better off in the long run selling a legitimate product.
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Is it also illegal to sell / buy feedback? e.g. giving something away such as a free recipe for $0.65 in exchange of a feedback?
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Is it okay to sell eBooks such as those that are compilation of information? eg. eBay marketing secrets 2002 eBay credit secrets 2001 6000+ ebooks package etc, etc, etc……. I see many sellers selling these eBooks but is it allowed by eBay? These are specifically banned under the downloadable media policy: http://pages.ebay.com/help/index_popup.html?policies=downloadable.html If you aren’t the copyright owner, you can’t sell downloadable media. For what it’s worth, why would you want to sell this crap anyway? You’ll be much better off in the long run selling a legitimate product.
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Is it still okay to sell them if you stick it all into a CD such that it is no longer a downloadable product?
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Is it okay to sell eBooks such as those that are compilation of information? eg. eBay marketing secrets 2002 eBay credit secrets 2001 6000+ ebooks package etc, etc, etc……. I see many sellers selling these eBooks but is it allowed by eBay? These are specifically banned under the downloadable media policy: http://pages.ebay.com/help/index_popup.html?policies=downloadable.html If you aren’t the copyright owner, you can’t sell downloadable media. For what it’s worth, why would you want to sell this crap anyway? You’ll be much better off in the long run selling a legitimate product.
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Is it also illegal to sell / buy feedback? e.g. giving something away such as a free recipe for $0.65 in exchange of a feedback?
Do you really think it wouldn’t be? For what it’s worth, here’s the link: http://pages.ebay.com/help/index_popup.html?policies=feedback-solicit…
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Is it still okay to sell them if you stick it all into a CD such that it is no longer a downloadable product?
Nope. eBay also has a rule against selling recordable media unless it’s blank, or unless you own the copyright.
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These are specifically banned under the downloadable media policy: http://pages.ebay.com/help/index_popup.html?policies=downloadable.html If you aren’t the copyright owner, you can’t sell downloadable media. For what it’s worth, why would you want to sell this crap anyway? You’ll be much better off in the long run selling a legitimate product.
Thank you! I’ve been trying to find a way to report all those "You’re bidding on a link" auctions for "how to get a laptop for $25!!" and "Ebay’s Secrets Exposed!" They ALL point to an E-book that you have to download, to get the info (I’ve got an extenisve collection of links and ebooks from most of these auctions that these sellers "sell" — of course, I didn’t fall for those auctions, just found other users online that have…and google is such a wonderful place to find them, too) Thank you thank you thank you thank you. (here’s a question…if you, yourself, does not own the link or site or domain that the info is on — you’re just selling the link…doesn’t that go against a copyright law or something???) WypeOut "Pupukahi i holomua." – Hawaiian Proverb "Unite to move forward." To reply remove "DIESPAMDIE" from email address
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