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I’m doing market research on possibly a new program for Ebay Marketing & USPS Shipping.  I sell on Ebay and find myself going back and forth between; photoshop, notepad, mister lister, ftp, outlook, explorer, shipping assistant, billpoint and several other Ebay webpages.  There seems to be a market for a management program. Anyone sharing their experience will be welcomed to be a beta tester, if I proceed. 1) Who is using Mister Lister and Shipping Assistant? What do you think about these programs and in your opinion what do they lack? 2) What photo editing program do you use? 3) Do you post in html or plain text? 4) What other programs are being used to assist you in your auctions and shipping?  What do you feel is missing in those programs? 5) Although, USPS Shipping Assistance and Mister Lister are free, would you consider paying for an all-in-one package that could improve your sells, shorten your hours and increase your profits.  A package that would assist you in posting, tracking, shipping, feedback, relisting, cost & profit analysis, plus some other feature I wish not to mention at this time. Any other input you can offer is welcomed. Thanks for your time, Ricky

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I’m doing market research on possibly a new program for Ebay Marketing & USPS Shipping.  I sell on Ebay and find myself going back and forth between; photoshop, notepad, mister lister, ftp, outlook, explorer, shipping assistant, billpoint and several other Ebay webpages.  There seems to be a market for a management program. Anyone sharing their experience will be welcomed to be a beta tester, if I proceed. 1) Who is using Mister Lister and Shipping Assistant? What do you think about these programs and in your opinion what do they lack?

I use Mister Lister. Would be nice if it had a way to preview how it would look on eBay without having to upload, but that’s asking a lot of a simple, free program. My other quibbles with it are minor, really. Would be nice if it had a way to do BIN but I don’t use BIN that much anyway. 2) What photo editing program do you use?

EasyPhoto v. 2.2, which came with an old Kodak Snapshot Scanner about five years ago, and is simplicity itself. I can resize, crop, change lighting, etc. in a matter of seconds without having to go through the menu crapola that Corel and Microsoft make you wade through. 3) Do you post in html or plain text?

Plain text. 4) What other programs are being used to assist you in your auctions and shipping?  What do you feel is missing in those programs?

I use the USPS rate calculator. I track sales on paper in different folders. With around 15 to 20 sales a week, this system works fine and I like the flexibility of being able to make copious notes on paper about a particular buyer or auction. 5) Although, USPS Shipping Assistance and Mister Lister are free, would you consider paying for an all-in-one package that could improve your sells, shorten your hours and increase your profits.  A package that would assist you in posting, tracking, shipping, feedback, relisting, cost & profit analysis, plus some other feature I wish not to mention at this time.

Possibly, but we have our own idiosyncratic system that works well for us. Also, the greater the complexity of the program, the more likely there will be bugs and problems. I have most of the things I use on my desktop — FTP, MisterLister, EasyPhoto, Nikon, an eBay folder full of boilerplate messages, etc. — and all I have to do is click on an icon and I’m there. Hard to imagine it would be any simpler if it was an all in one program. Also, an all-in-one program would have to appeal to people at different skill levels and there is a chance that it might end up with features for the Microsoft Bob set that could interfere with the straight-to-the-point interface I prefer. Any other input you can offer is welcomed.

If I considered an all-in-one program, my ability to customize would be a major factor. Thanks for your time, Ricky

You’re welcome, David

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m doing market research on possibly a new program for Ebay Marketing & USPS Shipping.  I sell on Ebay and find myself going back and forth between; photoshop, notepad, mister lister, ftp, outlook, explorer, shipping assistant, billpoint and several other Ebay webpages.  There seems to be a market for a management program. Anyone sharing their experience will be welcomed to be a beta tester, if I proceed. 1) Who is using Mister Lister and Shipping Assistant? What do you think about these programs and in your opinion what do they lack? I use Mister Lister. Would be nice if it had a way to preview how it would look on eBay without having to upload, but that’s asking a lot of a simple, free program. My other quibbles with it are minor, really. Would be nice if it had a way to do BIN but I don’t use BIN that much anyway. 2) What photo editing program do you use? EasyPhoto v. 2.2, which came with an old Kodak Snapshot Scanner about five years ago, and is simplicity itself. I can resize, crop, change lighting, etc. in a matter of seconds without having to go through the menu crapola that Corel and Microsoft make you wade through. 3) Do you post in html or plain text? Plain text. 4) What other programs are being used to assist you in your auctions and shipping?  What do you feel is missing in those programs? I use the USPS rate calculator. I track sales on paper in different folders. With around 15 to 20 sales a week, this system works fine and I like the flexibility of being able to make copious notes on paper about a particular buyer or auction. 5) Although, USPS Shipping Assistance and Mister Lister are free, would you consider paying for an all-in-one package that could improve your sells, shorten your hours and increase your profits.  A package that would assist you in posting, tracking, shipping, feedback, relisting, cost & profit analysis, plus some other feature I wish not to mention at this time. Possibly, but we have our own idiosyncratic system that works well for us. Also, the greater the complexity of the program, the more likely there will be bugs and problems. I have most of the things I use on my desktop — FTP, MisterLister, EasyPhoto, Nikon, an eBay folder full of boilerplate messages, etc. — and all I have to do is click on an icon and I’m there. Hard to imagine it would be any simpler if it was an all in one program. Also, an all-in-one program would have to appeal to people at different skill levels and there is a chance that it might end up with features for the Microsoft Bob set that could interfere with the straight-to-the-point interface I prefer. Any other input you can offer is welcomed. If I considered an all-in-one program, my ability to customize would be a major factor. Thanks for your time, Ricky You’re welcome, David

Try auction Tamer. You can preview before uploading,

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m doing market research on possibly a new program for Ebay Marketing & USPS Shipping.  I sell on Ebay and find myself going back and forth between; photoshop, notepad, mister lister, ftp, outlook, explorer, shipping assistant, billpoint and several other Ebay webpages.  There seems to be a market for a management program. Anyone sharing their experience will be welcomed to be a beta tester, if I proceed. 1) Who is using Mister Lister and Shipping Assistant? What do you think about these programs and in your opinion what do they lack? 2) What photo editing program do you use? 3) Do you post in html or plain text? 4) What other programs are being used to assist you in your auctions and shipping?  What do you feel is missing in those programs? 5) Although, USPS Shipping Assistance and Mister Lister are free, would you consider paying for an all-in-one package that could improve your sells, shorten your hours and increase your profits.  A package that would assist you in posting, tracking, shipping, feedback, relisting, cost & profit analysis, plus some other feature I wish not to mention at this time. Any other input you can offer is welcomed. Thanks for your time, Ricky

I use Encdia.com for my shipping postage. I use Auction Tamer for posting and managing my auctions. I use Paint Shop Pro for my pictures. Auction tamer also has (now) Image tamer which handles the use of photos in the listing, width, height, and urls and uploading and all that. and even hosting them if one wishes. Bout the only thing I would like to see is an auction management software like Auction Tamer with being able to print the postage while it does the shipping labels.

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I’m doing market research on possibly a new program for Ebay Marketing & USPS Shipping.  I sell on Ebay and find myself going back and forth between; photoshop, notepad, mister lister, ftp, outlook, explorer, shipping assistant, billpoint and several other Ebay webpages.  There seems to be a market for a management program. Anyone sharing their experience will be welcomed to be a beta tester, if I proceed. 1) Who is using Mister Lister and Shipping Assistant? What do you think about these programs and in your opinion what do they lack?

not us 2) What photo editing program do you use?

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yes. 4) What other programs are being used to assist you in your auctions and shipping?  What do you feel is missing in those programs?

quickphrase 5) Although, USPS Shipping Assistance and Mister Lister are free, would you consider paying for an all-in-one package that could improve your sells, shorten your hours and increase your profits.  A package that would assist you in posting, tracking, shipping, feedback, relisting, cost & profit analysis, plus some other feature I wish not to mention at this time.

no. Any other input you can offer is welcomed.

See http://www.tinaja.com/auct01.asp Thanks for your time, Ricky

– Many thanks, Don Lancaster Synergetics   3860 West First Street  Box 809  Thatcher, AZ 85552 Please visit my GURU’s LAIR web site at http://www.tinaja.com

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I use Mister Lister. Would be nice if it had a way to preview how it would look on eBay without having to upload, but that’s asking a lot of a simple, free program. My other quibbles with it are minor, really. Would be nice if it had a way to do BIN but I don’t use BIN that much anyway.

??? You mean, have it notify you or something when someone has used BIN? Mac

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I use Mister Lister. Would be nice if it had a way to preview how it would look on eBay without having to upload, but that’s asking a lot of a simple, free program. My other quibbles with it are minor, really. Would be nice if it had a way to do BIN but I don’t use BIN that much anyway. ??? You mean, have it notify you or something when someone has used BIN? Mac

It must be the weather here today — I realize MisterLister has BIN — I think I’ll quit work and go have a margarita. David

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Think about it though, if you’re selling computer memory on eBay, do you really want your auction listings displayed next to the big online retailers prices.  If eBay gets the retailers to come to eBay to sell in their eBay stores, it could easily wreck the prices of a lot of eBay categories.  I doubt the area I sell in would be hurt, but it could devastate the auction sales of people who sell new merchandise. "wreck the prices" — That’s just not possible. Prices will always find their optimum level based on supply and demand; basic Adam Smith stuff. ebay is about as close as we get to a truly "free" market. If the little guys can’t compete, they need to either try harder or get out. Unless you’re suggesting that competition be limited so prices can stay artificially high? -Bob If this were really true, how do you explain the fact that there are a lot of items that are sold on eBay at prices above what the same items sell for through online retailers.  This is true with traditional auctions as well, I’ve seen items go for twice what you could buy them for at any antique store in town.  Mixing a fixed price format and an auction format isn’t particularly healthy for either one.  Just as the computer parts sellers wouldn’t want the listings combined, I doubt Sears would want it’s fixed price listing for tools to be intermingled with auctions for used tools. Richard Ward

I think you just nailed it. Sears and the big retailers that are best served by the stores concept DON’T want their merchandise side by side with the used stuff. As far as optimal price goes, don’t forget that eBay has a larger pool of buyers and for merchandise that is relatively desirable, you might get higher prices than an antique dealer without the right mix of customers. As much as people focus on price, it isn’t the only factor in most purchasing decisions. Convenience, security, and immediacy all affect commerce. Bill Shaw toppsoft

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Will small sellers like it when a combined search might bring up thousands of listings instead of a much smaller  amount?

I tried the store again, cancelled it again … the whole thing is a waste of time, especially since I already have my own WWW site for the same items! I did a search on "Bundy" (as in serial killer "Ted Bundy") and came up with a shitload of other items in the stores which are musical instruments and so forth.

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nd? Kind of sounds again as if they love the big sellers and not the small guys

That is why they set up the stores in the first place.  Small guys did not need them. I can’t help but believe that if they do attract a lot of large retailers and wholesalers Ebay will make it easier for the buyers to locate the store goods –  probably thru a combined search feature. ????? Will small sellers like it when a combined search might bring up thousands of listings instead of a much smaller  amount????? Will it turn out like Yahoo with 100 gadzillion listings that buyers would not go thru???? A lot of store ??? are being answered by Ebay in the chat sections of their site. Sounds like if I open a store, and have a widget for sale in it, no eBay buyer will find it with any reasonable probability unless I happen to also have an auction with a widget in it and can get them to click through to my store.

For now that is what Ebay is telling us to do.  I’ve had pretty good luck with store sales – I guess – no way to know what they would have been if done the old fashioned way. John

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"We recognize that this means fixed price items will not get the traffic they would if they were included in eBay search, and we have kept the insertion fee extremely low to make up for this fact." Implication: they now have set the stage for a rate increase when they respond to the pressure to include stores in the search results, or have a search result option to include stores. I don’t follow their logic, though. I appreciate their posting, but sometimes I wonder if they are being forthright with us.

Other possible implication:  if they try to work all this into the software at once, ebay may crash for a week.  Would you prefer that?  Keep in mind that stores are still very much in beta. "Why not include the Stores fixed price listing within the eBay search results? We want to take things one step at a time."

Same explanation. (3) …"eBay Store owners should also continue to advertise…" [we have to somehow advertise our store???]

If you had your own website with its own URL, would you advertise it?  So who wouldn’t you advertise your ebay store, with its own URL? Sounds like if I open a store, and have a widget for sale in it, no eBay buyer will find it with any reasonable probability unless I happen to also have an auction with a widget in it and can get them to click through to my store. Unless I have an advertising budger, perhaps I can place an ad in USA today for a few thousand? Kind of sounds again as if they love the big sellers and not the small guys.

Anyone searching the stores will find it.  It’s just a matter of getting more people to use the store search. "Advertising" doesn’t have to mean an ad in the newspaper.  It can be as simple as a sig file with "visit my ebay store at http://www.ebaystores.com/yourstorename" attached to your Usenet posts. — This signature set has been reported to reduce spam. Maybe if others do it we can defeat the email search bots.

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 I’ve also found that your typical B&M retailer doesn’t get it when it comes to pricing for the web and they are still trying to make up for their higher overhead in their pricing. For certain small items, their markup is as much as 90% leaving me room to make some money.

I have a friend who suggested I sell some of his goodies on ebay.  He’s got an $85 catalog item that he bought a bunch of for $7 and is trying to sell in his store for $42.50.  He figured that would be a great place to start, until I pointed out that they were selling for $10-15 on ebay, and he’d have to pay me for my time spent writing and setting up the ad.  He had another item that retails for $1000, and I could have anything I could get over $825, except again, they sell on ebay for more like $675. With the ebay stores, there will be a lot more flexibility, and it will cost a nickel to list that item for $850 for a month instead of $3.30 for a week, but I still don’t think he’s mastered the concept of sell cheap/buy even cheaper. — This signature set has been reported to reduce spam. Maybe if others do it we can defeat the email search bots.

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How does the saying go? Men will pay double for something they need and women will buy something 50% off for something just in case they might need it. Or something like that. Bill Shaw toppsoft

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I see your point, but I think the market would work itself out. This may mean that some sellers would get lower prices for items than they would have previously. If a used widget is up for auction, and new ones sell on the same venue for a fixed price of $10, it’s extremely unlikely that the price of the used one would exceed $10. Whereas today the new ones might be available at widgets.com for $10, but if one didn’t know that and saw a widget for sale on ebay for $12, and decided that it was needed, they might go ahead and bid. That’s good for the ebay seller, but a bit of a raw deal for the consumer. -Bob

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"Bob Flaminio" wrote "wreck the prices" — That’s just not possible. Prices will always find their optimum level based on supply and demand; basic Adam Smith stuff. ebay is about as close as we get to a truly "free" market. If the little guys can’t compete, they need to either try harder or get out. Unless you’re suggesting that competition be limited so prices can stay artificially high?

That’s what I always say to the Wal-Mart haters.  It keeps everybody else honest. —  YMH  Laurie "The point at issue is not whether Maine and Texas may now talk to one another, but rather whether they have anything significant to say." Henry David Thoreau ,  reacting to the news that Maine and Texas had been connected by telegraph lines.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – "wreck the prices" — That’s just not possible. Prices will always find their optimum level based on supply and demand; basic Adam Smith stuff. ebay is about as close as we get to a truly "free" market. If the little guys can’t compete, they need to either try harder or get out. Unless you’re suggesting that competition be limited so prices can stay artificially high? -Bob If this were really true, how do you explain the fact that there are a lot of items that are sold on eBay at prices above what the same items sell for through online retailers.

Bidding frenzy, buyer ignorance, loyalty to ebay (ha!), and probably a number of other reasons. I’ve certainly done that — I bought a "rare" CD on ebay for $60, only to find it at my local shop three weeks later for $9.99. This is true with traditional auctions as well, I’ve seen items go for twice what you could buy them for at any antique store in town.  Mixing a fixed price format and an auction format isn’t particularly healthy for either one.  Just as the computer parts sellers wouldn’t want the listings combined, I doubt Sears would want it’s fixed price listing for tools to be intermingled with auctions for used tools.

I see your point, but I think the market would work itself out. This may mean that some sellers would get lower prices for items than they would have previously. If a used widget is up for auction, and new ones sell on the same venue for a fixed price of $10, it’s extremely unlikely that the price of the used one would exceed $10. Whereas today the new ones might be available at widgets.com for $10, but if one didn’t know that and saw a widget for sale on ebay for $12, and decided that it was needed, they might go ahead and bid. That’s good for the ebay seller, but a bit of a raw deal for the consumer. -Bob

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – If you think this through, it makes no sense to me. The benefit to having your store at eBay right now is cost. You don’t benefit from eBay’s massive traffic on the auction site. If I have to do my own advertising to generate traffic for my site, I want to send it to MY URL, not ebaystores.com/foo.bar. After all, why would I spend advertising dollars to send traffic to a venue where my competitors are one click away? As far as stores being only a click away from your auction listings, so is my About Me page which can go anywhere. The majority of sales I’ve made in the store have been from click-throughs on like items in the auction venue. I’d just as soon continue to use BIN for my auctions and save the extra step and the extra listing fees (once they kick in). EBay isn’t leveraging the one advantage they have here and the decision to not integrate stores into the search makes their store destination just one more deserted strip mall on the Internet. I’ve been intending to start using the PayPal shopping cart once I find some free time to mess with it. With a cheap webhosting service and online payment, a private store would probably be just as effective as an eBay store with no real tie-in to the eBay auction site. IOW, not very. Still, at least I would be promoting my brand instead of eBay’s if I have to go out and promote it myself anyway. We’ll see what happens between now and when eBay starts charging real money for stores and listings. They’ve done abrupt about faces before and might figure out they are shooting themselves in the foot by not integrating their auction traffic. Bill Shaw toppsoft <snip Think about it though, if you’re selling computer memory on eBay, do you really want your auction listings displayed next to the big online retailers prices.  If eBay gets the retailers to come to eBay to sell in their eBay stores, it could easily wreck the prices of a lot of eBay categories.  I doubt the area I sell in would be hurt, but it could devastate the auction sales of people who sell new merchandise. Richard Ward

I do sell new merchandise. I’ve found that certain items (memory is one of them) tends to be purchased by someone who is shopping prices pretty hard anyway. Prices from those types of items are already really depressed in the auction venue. Memory routinely sells below my wholesale cost. I’m happy to let others take the lumps on stuff like that. Since I mostly sell computer and network commodity items, I tend to look for distress sales to accumulate merchandise or for products that aren’t terribly saturated on eBay and I have done pretty well so far. I don’t purchase as aggressively as Don, but I do try to focus on merchandise with good margins. I’ve also found that your typical B&M retailer doesn’t get it when it comes to pricing for the web and they are still trying to make up for their higher overhead in their pricing. For certain small items, their markup is as much as 90% leaving me room to make some money. I think if I were going to compete more directly with the IBM’s, Radio Shack’s and Gateway’s of the world, I would probably adjust to find a niche they don’t serve well. I am more than happy to phase out products that don’t sell profitably and can afford to dump a few losers now and again. Bill Shaw toppsoft

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Think about it though, if you’re selling computer memory on eBay, do you really want your auction listings displayed next to the big online retailers prices.  If eBay gets the retailers to come to eBay to sell in their eBay stores, it could easily wreck the prices of a lot of eBay categories.  I doubt the area I sell in would be hurt, but it could devastate the auction sales of people who sell new merchandise.

"wreck the prices" — That’s just not possible. Prices will always find their optimum level based on supply and demand; basic Adam Smith stuff. ebay is about as close as we get to a truly "free" market. If the little guys can’t compete, they need to either try harder or get out. Unless you’re suggesting that competition be limited so prices can stay artificially high? -Bob

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Think about it though, if you’re selling computer memory on eBay, do you really want your auction listings displayed next to the big online retailers prices.  If eBay gets the retailers to come to eBay to sell in their eBay stores, it could easily wreck the prices of a lot of eBay categories.  I doubt the area I sell in would be hurt, but it could devastate the auction sales of people who sell new merchandise. "wreck the prices" — That’s just not possible. Prices will always find their optimum level based on supply and demand; basic Adam Smith stuff. ebay is about as close as we get to a truly "free" market. If the little guys can’t compete, they need to either try harder or get out. Unless you’re suggesting that competition be limited so prices can stay artificially high? -Bob

If this were really true, how do you explain the fact that there are a lot of items that are sold on eBay at prices above what the same items sell for through online retailers.  This is true with traditional auctions as well, I’ve seen items go for twice what you could buy them for at any antique store in town.  Mixing a fixed price format and an auction format isn’t particularly healthy for either one.  Just as the computer parts sellers wouldn’t want the listings combined, I doubt Sears would want it’s fixed price listing for tools to be intermingled with auctions for used tools.   Richard Ward

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – If you think this through, it makes no sense to me. The benefit to having your store at eBay right now is cost. You don’t benefit from eBay’s massive traffic on the auction site. If I have to do my own advertising to generate traffic for my site, I want to send it to MY URL, not ebaystores.com/foo.bar. After all, why would I spend advertising dollars to send traffic to a venue where my competitors are one click away? As far as stores being only a click away from your auction listings, so is my About Me page which can go anywhere. The majority of sales I’ve made in the store have been from click-throughs on like items in the auction venue. I’d just as soon continue to use BIN for my auctions and save the extra step and the extra listing fees (once they kick in). EBay isn’t leveraging the one advantage they have here and the decision to not integrate stores into the search makes their store destination just one more deserted strip mall on the Internet. I’ve been intending to start using the PayPal shopping cart once I find some free time to mess with it. With a cheap webhosting service and online payment, a private store would probably be just as effective as an eBay store with no real tie-in to the eBay auction site. IOW, not very. Still, at least I would be promoting my brand instead of eBay’s if I have to go out and promote it myself anyway. We’ll see what happens between now and when eBay starts charging real money for stores and listings. They’ve done abrupt about faces before and might figure out they are shooting themselves in the foot by not integrating their auction traffic. Bill Shaw toppsoft <snip

Think about it though, if you’re selling computer memory on eBay, do you really want your auction listings displayed next to the big online retailers prices.  If eBay gets the retailers to come to eBay to sell in their eBay stores, it could easily wreck the prices of a lot of eBay categories.  I doubt the area I sell in would be hurt, but it could devastate the auction sales of people who sell new merchandise. Richard Ward

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Yesterday on the eBay Marketing Announcements Board, eBay, in explaining why store listings don’t show up in the eBay search results, states: "We recognize that this means fixed price items will not get the traffic they would if they were included in eBay search, and we have kept the insertion fee extremely low to make up for this fact." Implication: they now have set the stage for a rate increase when they respond to the pressure to include stores in the search results, or have a search result option to include stores. I don’t follow their logic, though. I appreciate their posting, but sometimes I wonder if they are being forthright with us. A few other interesting quotes: "Why not include the Stores fixed price listing within the eBay search results? We want to take things one step at a time." "…Stores provide sellers with another format in which to sell items that sellers don’t want included in eBay search…" So how do buyers find your store listings? It appears there are only three ways: (1) Surfing through the store listings (www.ebaystores.com) (2) "…all of your eBay listings will have a prominent link to your Store" [so a potential buyer has to come to a listing of yours before he/she knows you have a store] (3) …"eBay Store owners should also continue to advertise…" [we have to somehow advertise our store???] Sounds like if I open a store, and have a widget for sale in it, no eBay buyer will find it with any reasonable probability unless I happen to also have an auction with a widget in it and can get them to click through to my store. Unless I have an advertising budger, perhaps I can place an ad in USA today for a few thousand? Kind of sounds again as if they love the big sellers and not the small guys. Oh well, eBay is only a venue.

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Sounds like if I open a store, and have a widget for sale in it, no eBay buyer will find it with any reasonable probability unless I happen to also have an auction with a widget in it and can get them to click through to my store.

I’ve had pretty good luck with posting a regular auction for my "widget" and then using about half my speel talking about all the other different widgets I have in my store with instructions on how to get to my store. To use a store you need, I think, similar items that would normally be in a dutch auction.  The stores are geared more for consumer items, not collectables John

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If you think this through, it makes no sense to me. The benefit to having your store at eBay right now is cost. You don’t benefit from eBay’s massive traffic on the auction site. If I have to do my own advertising to generate traffic for my site, I want to send it to MY URL, not ebaystores.com/foo.bar. After all, why would I spend advertising dollars to send traffic to a venue where my competitors are one click away? As far as stores being only a click away from your auction listings, so is my About Me page which can go anywhere. The majority of sales I’ve made in the store have been from click-throughs on like items in the auction venue. I’d just as soon continue to use BIN for my auctions and save the extra step and the extra listing fees (once they kick in). EBay isn’t leveraging the one advantage they have here and the decision to not integrate stores into the search makes their store destination just one more deserted strip mall on the Internet. I’ve been intending to start using the PayPal shopping cart once I find some free time to mess with it. With a cheap webhosting service and online payment, a private store would probably be just as effective as an eBay store with no real tie-in to the eBay auction site. IOW, not very. Still, at least I would be promoting my brand instead of eBay’s if I have to go out and promote it myself anyway. We’ll see what happens between now and when eBay starts charging real money for stores and listings. They’ve done abrupt about faces before and might figure out they are shooting themselves in the foot by not integrating their auction traffic. Bill Shaw toppsoft

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – So how do buyers find your store listings? It appears there are only three ways: (1) Surfing through the store listings (www.ebaystores.com) (2) "…all of your eBay listings will have a prominent link to your Store" [so a potential buyer has to come to a listing of yours before he/she knows you have a store] (3) …"eBay Store owners should also continue to advertise…" [we have to somehow advertise our store???] Sounds like if I open a store, and have a widget for sale in it, no eBay buyer will find it with any reasonable probability unless I happen to also have an auction with a widget in it and can get them to click through to my store. Unless I have an advertising budger, perhaps I can place an ad in USA today for a few thousand? Kind of sounds again as if they love the big sellers and not the small guys. Oh well, eBay is only a venue.

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Proof that eBay *DOES* listen to suggestions … I first made this one about two years ago, when they switched from radio buttons to those gawdawful pulldown menus: From the eBay Marketing Announcements Board: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – ***Simplification of Relisting*** Today we made a minor change to make the relisting process faster. Historically, one source of frustration for sellers that relist is that they have to wait a long time while the category selection boxes load, even if they wanted to relist the item in the same category. In order to address this concern, we are now defaulting the category selection to the previous category in which the item was listed. This will reduce the loading time of the Relist Your Item page significantly since you won’t need to download all of the current eBay categories. If you decide that you want to list in a different category, we have provided a link to the old Relist Your Item form, which includes the category selection boxes. Regards, eBay

Dunno ’bout the rest of you, but as for me … WHOOPEE! — P. O. Box 32541                 website:  http://www.kenbarr.com San Jose, CA 95152          (souvenir cards, MPC, Hickey Bros tokens) 408-272-3247           Next show:  ANA Atlanta 8/8 – 8/12, Table # 125 w/FCG

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What would be reeeeeeaaaaaaallly neat, is if you could get a count on searches.  Then the sellers would know what the buyers are looking for, and everyone would be happier.   You know, top searches at the top of the list.

It would be horrible, all the keyword spammers would know how to target searchers — Rid

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Well.. if you are armed with the Most DANGEROUS Book on the Net, and you happen to be a nice guy.. You WILL succeed.. Here’s why.. This is an email from Brian, a fellow Big Dog.. he is one of the nicest guys I’ve met online.. here’s what he has to say about the program, a virtual profit magnet that has taken the Internet by storm.. (FREE DOWNLOAD OFFER, see bottom of message) "Big Dog" Power Briefing from my Upline Friend, in the last "Big Dog" Power Briefing, I went over my income figures with you. I never do this to brag, but to encourage you that there is hope out there to anyone wanting to succeed despite the heavy competition. "ONLY IF YOU UNDERSTAND THE NUMBERS GAME WHICH MOST NEVER WILL" There are millions of opportunity seekers on the internet, and although I’m the top "Big Dog" seller, I haven’t even scratched the surface. There is room for tens of thousands of people to earn a nice, steady income with this opportunity. For the Purpose of this Power Briefing, I’m only going to go into the first 2 levels of compensation with this program (there are 12 total levels of compensation..). The figures below are PER Month PER Person.. Level 1 – $48.41 Level 2 – $29.09 After selling 590 ebooks already, I have very clear numbers on what one can expect if they work this program. For each 5 ebooks I sell, I’ve been getting a full CHIP Member which pays me $48.41 per month. For every 15 hits I can generate to the "Big Dogs" site, I’ve been getting a sale. Sometimes it’s 1:20 and sometimes it’s 1:10 but it averages 1:15. Look at the REAL Numbers. If you just got 6 sales each month or 1 CHIP Member and each of these CHIP members under you got 1 per month for a year, you’ll see these amazing figures.. 1. 12 CHIP Members Per Year by yourself = $580.92 per Month 2. Each of your 12 CHIP Members gets 12 CHIP Members = $4,188.96 Per Month YOUR TOTAL INCOME AFTER ONE YEAR = $4,769.88 Per Month SO YOUR YEARLY INCOME WOULD BE = $57,238.56 So your yearly goal is to just make 72 ebook sales per year, and you’ll be over 1/2 way to a 6 figure income. I got 81 ebook sales within one weekend just from announcing the "Big Dogs" program to this list. While this might not be "getting rich" to some people, in most all cases it will pay your mortgage, utilities, car and medical insurance and give you vacation money every few months even if you didn’t have another job. That’s why Stan said if you made the magic one per day, you’d be earning a very healthy income after a year, what he MEANT was a six figure income. And he wasn’t kidding… Now lets be realistic. How hard is it to make 72 sales? We’ve documented through testing that for every 15 or so qualified customers that click a banner or ezine link, at least once will purchase "Big Dogs". So, if you can just bring 1,440 hits to your site each year and you can show your 1st level downline how to do this, you’ll make the necessary sales to earn this kind of money. But lets be safe and say 2,000 hits/yr. Friend, I love the "Big Dogs" program. It’s simply incredible. I simply sell the ebook for $19.95 and I’m earning back-end income like crazy. Here is my earnings report compiled on May 31st 2001 since my Start Date into C.H.I.P.’s which was April 17th 2001. Pretty inspiring figures. My C.H.I.P. or Coordinated High Income Portfolio is growing Progressively each month simply by following the concepts in the "Secrets of the Big Dogs" Manual. ** Monthly Commissions ** Simple System = $2,005.08 Traffic Wave = $146.00 FFANET PRO = $949.64 Multilinks = $350.00 Altrasearch = $329.25 Email Promotor = $260.00 Pro Money Mail = $395.85 Daily Targeted Leads = $455.00 MyEbizPage = $286.50 World Submitter = $340.00 ROIbot = $132.40 TOTAL MONTHLY COMMISSIONS FOR THE "SHERIFF" = $5,649.72 ** Direct Sales (Total Since Joining…) ** 519 "Big Dog" Sales = $4,530.87 Pro Money Mail = $1,350.00 Aureate Group Mail = $1,539.86 Top Ezine Ads = $1,100.00 FFANET PRO Bonus = $3,000.00 AltraSearch Bonus = $1,500.00 DTL Network Bonus = $500.00   TOTAL DIRECT SALES IN THE "SHERIFF’S" POCKET = $13,519.86 So how is my downline doing? The answer is EXCELLENT!! Out of the first 10 people who signed up under me, 7-10 have already got at least one CHIP member. When you consider the normal failure rate of Network Marketing Opportunities at 85%, this is phenomenal. Friend, 6 OUT OF THESE 7 PEOPLE NEVER MADE A DIME ON THE INTERNET! THAT’S THE UPSIDE OF KNOWING ALL THE SECRETS.. Please note that I’ve personally spoke with all these people at one time or another, and none of them had any true skills in Internet Marketing. What’s making them succeed is because they’ve made up their mind that they were going to succeed. One of them already has 8 CHIP members. Imagine how rich he’s going to be if he can keep this up all year! Secrets of the "Big Dogs" is the new Internet Bestseller that takes a hard look at what’s out there on the internet, why people aren’t making money and reveals.. 1. The 4 Big Internet Lies 2. The 10 "Secrets of The Big Dogs" and gives you the straight scoop as to why everyone (but you) seems to be making a living on the internet. Here’s the URL (just do it Friend, only $19.95…).. http://www.roibot.com/r.cgi?R38556_bigdogs P.S. Some VERY Big Names have been joining Big Dogs under me. Wanna know why these people are joining? Why not check it out for yourself. P.S.S. With this program, you can AUTOMATICALLY generate up to 20,000 targeted, pre-qualified leads PER DAY! Up to 600,000 email leads MONTHLY! Great for Promoting Your Web Site or Product! If you join the BIG DOGS, please email us at: After confirmation, we’ll send you a secret URL for FREE downloads such as.. E-Mail Marketing Strategies Revealed! – $19.95 Internet Cash Machines – $14.97 eBay Marketing 2001 – $24.97 The Complete eBay Auction Marketing E-Course – $9.95 Join the Big Dogs today and receive up to $70 worth of free downloads! http://www.roibot.com/r.cgi?R38556_bigdogs

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Well.. if you are armed with the Most DANGEROUS Book on the Net, and you happen to be a nice guy.. You WILL succeed.. Here’s why.. This is an email from Brian, a fellow Big Dog.. he is one of the nicest guys I’ve met online.. here’s what he has to say about the program, a virtual profit magnet that has taken the Internet by storm.. (FREE DOWNLOAD OFFER, see bottom of message) "Big Dog" Power Briefing from my Upline Friend, in the last "Big Dog" Power Briefing, I went over my income figures with you. I never do this to brag, but to encourage you that there is hope out there to anyone wanting to succeed despite the heavy competition. "ONLY IF YOU UNDERSTAND THE NUMBERS GAME WHICH MOST NEVER WILL" There are millions of opportunity seekers on the internet, and although I’m the top "Big Dog" seller, I haven’t even scratched the surface. There is room for tens of thousands of people to earn a nice, steady income with this opportunity. For the Purpose of this Power Briefing, I’m only going to go into the first 2 levels of compensation with this program (there are 12 total levels of compensation..). The figures below are PER Month PER Person.. Level 1 – $48.41 Level 2 – $29.09 After selling 590 ebooks already, I have very clear numbers on what one can expect if they work this program. For each 5 ebooks I sell, I’ve been getting a full CHIP Member which pays me $48.41 per month. For every 15 hits I can generate to the "Big Dogs" site, I’ve been getting a sale. Sometimes it’s 1:20 and sometimes it’s 1:10 but it averages 1:15. Look at the REAL Numbers. If you just got 6 sales each month or 1 CHIP Member and each of these CHIP members under you got 1 per month for a year, you’ll see these amazing figures.. 1. 12 CHIP Members Per Year by yourself = $580.92 per Month 2. Each of your 12 CHIP Members gets 12 CHIP Members = $4,188.96 Per Month YOUR TOTAL INCOME AFTER ONE YEAR = $4,769.88 Per Month SO YOUR YEARLY INCOME WOULD BE = $57,238.56 So your yearly goal is to just make 72 ebook sales per year, and you’ll be over 1/2 way to a 6 figure income. I got 81 ebook sales within one weekend just from announcing the "Big Dogs" program to this list. While this might not be "getting rich" to some people, in most all cases it will pay your mortgage, utilities, car and medical insurance and give you vacation money every few months even if you didn’t have another job. That’s why Stan said if you made the magic one per day, you’d be earning a very healthy income after a year, what he MEANT was a six figure income. And he wasn’t kidding… Now lets be realistic. How hard is it to make 72 sales? We’ve documented through testing that for every 15 or so qualified customers that click a banner or ezine link, at least once will purchase "Big Dogs". So, if you can just bring 1,440 hits to your site each year and you can show your 1st level downline how to do this, you’ll make the necessary sales to earn this kind of money. But lets be safe and say 2,000 hits/yr. Friend, I love the "Big Dogs" program. It’s simply incredible. I simply sell the ebook for $19.95 and I’m earning back-end income like crazy. Here is my earnings report compiled on May 31st 2001 since my Start Date into C.H.I.P.’s which was April 17th 2001. Pretty inspiring figures. My C.H.I.P. or Coordinated High Income Portfolio is growing Progressively each month simply by following the concepts in the "Secrets of the Big Dogs" Manual. ** Monthly Commissions ** Simple System = $2,005.08 Traffic Wave = $146.00 FFANET PRO = $949.64 Multilinks = $350.00 Altrasearch = $329.25 Email Promotor = $260.00 Pro Money Mail = $395.85 Daily Targeted Leads = $455.00 MyEbizPage = $286.50 World Submitter = $340.00 ROIbot = $132.40 TOTAL MONTHLY COMMISSIONS FOR THE "SHERIFF" = $5,649.72 ** Direct Sales (Total Since Joining…) ** 519 "Big Dog" Sales = $4,530.87 Pro Money Mail = $1,350.00 Aureate Group Mail = $1,539.86 Top Ezine Ads = $1,100.00 FFANET PRO Bonus = $3,000.00 AltraSearch Bonus = $1,500.00 DTL Network Bonus = $500.00   TOTAL DIRECT SALES IN THE "SHERIFF’S" POCKET = $13,519.86 So how is my downline doing? The answer is EXCELLENT!! Out of the first 10 people who signed up under me, 7-10 have already got at least one CHIP member. When you consider the normal failure rate of Network Marketing Opportunities at 85%, this is phenomenal. Friend, 6 OUT OF THESE 7 PEOPLE NEVER MADE A DIME ON THE INTERNET! THAT’S THE UPSIDE OF KNOWING ALL THE SECRETS.. Please note that I’ve personally spoke with all these people at one time or another, and none of them had any true skills in Internet Marketing. What’s making them succeed is because they’ve made up their mind that they were going to succeed. One of them already has 8 CHIP members. Imagine how rich he’s going to be if he can keep this up all year! Secrets of the "Big Dogs" is the new Internet Bestseller that takes a hard look at what’s out there on the internet, why people aren’t making money and reveals.. 1. The 4 Big Internet Lies 2. The 10 "Secrets of The Big Dogs" and gives you the straight scoop as to why everyone (but you) seems to be making a living on the internet. Here’s the URL (just do it Friend, only $19.95…).. http://www.roibot.com/r.cgi?R38556_bigdogs P.S. Some VERY Big Names have been joining Big Dogs under me. Wanna know why these people are joining? Why not check it out for yourself. P.S.S. With this program, you can AUTOMATICALLY generate up to 20,000 targeted, pre-qualified leads PER DAY! Up to 600,000 email leads MONTHLY! Great for Promoting Your Web Site or Product! If you join the BIG DOGS, please email us at: After confirmation, we’ll send you a secret URL for FREE downloads such as.. E-Mail Marketing Strategies Revealed! – $19.95 Internet Cash Machines – $14.97 eBay Marketing 2001 – $24.97 The Complete eBay Auction Marketing E-Course – $9.95 Join the Big Dogs today and receive up to $70 worth of free downloads! http://www.roibot.com/r.cgi?R38556_bigdogs

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I taped the damn show so I could watch it at my leisure tonight after work. I fucking hate assholes that don’t use spoilers. A friend and I had a bet going. He watches the thing religiously; I’d never seen it. I told him I could guess who would win just by watching the last show. If I was right, it was a lobster dinner for me. As excruciatingly honest as I am , I couldn’t pull it off. Dang.

I don’t watch the show (my husband does).   When I first saw the photos of the cast of Survivor II, I told my husband that Tina would win.   Wish I could forecast important things Kris

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I don’t watch the show (my husband does).   When I first saw the photos of the cast of Survivor II, I told my husband that Tina would win.   Wish I could forecast important things

I wish you could, too. I’d have you take a peak at my stock portfolio (such that it is) P.S.  Did you get your flower books? — "Will the highways on the Internet become more few?" — Candidate GW Bush, Concord, N.H., Jan. 29, 2000

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I taped the damn show so I could watch it at my leisure tonight after work. I fucking hate assholes that don’t use spoilers. A friend and I had a bet going. He watches the thing religiously; I’d never seen it. I told him I could guess who would win just by watching the last show. If I was right, it was a lobster dinner for me. As excruciatingly honest as I am , I couldn’t pull it off. Dang. I don’t watch the show (my husband does).   When I first saw the photos of the cast of Survivor II, I told my husband that Tina would win.   Wish I could forecast important things Kris

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Who’s Tina?

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I don’t watch the show (my husband does).   When I first saw the photos of the cast of Survivor II, I told my husband that Tina would win.   Wish I could forecast important things I wish you could, too. I’d have you take a peak at my stock portfolio (such that it is) P.S.  Did you get your flower books?

Yes, I did!   thanks! I was so busy slobbering over them last night, I neglected to pass on my thanks! We had hurricane-force canyon winds here the last two days, and my newly-bloomed tulips were beheaded.   I’m ready to buy plastic ones Kris – Got Fresca?

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(although why anyone would care who won "Survivor" still escapes me), Thought I was the only one who felt that way. LOL, I don’t watch TV so I’m totally lost on the subject. Kimberly

Same here, Kimberly;  I’d *much* rather read a good book.

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P.S.  Did you get your flower books? Yes, I did!   thanks! I was so busy slobbering over them last night, I neglected to pass on my thanks!

My pleasure We had hurricane-force canyon winds here the last two days, and my newly-bloomed tulips were beheaded.   I’m ready to buy plastic ones

ACK!! No way. Flamingos would be more legitimate — "Will the highways on the Internet become more few?" — Candidate GW Bush, Concord, N.H., Jan. 29, 2000

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I don’t watch the show (my husband does).   When I first saw the photos of the cast of Survivor II, I told my husband that Tina would win.   Wish I could forecast important things I wish you could, too. I’d have you take a peak at my stock portfolio (such that it is) P.S.  Did you get your flower books? Yes, I did!   thanks! I was so busy slobbering over them last night, I neglected to pass on my thanks! We had hurricane-force canyon winds here the last two days, and my newly-bloomed tulips were beheaded.   I’m ready to buy plastic ones Kris – Got Fresca?

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – (although why anyone would care who won "Survivor" still escapes me), Thought I was the only one who felt that way. LOL, I don’t watch TV so I’m totally lost on the subject. Kimberly Same here, Kimberly;  I’d *much* rather read a good book.

I agree with you on that one. Books are much better. Kimberly – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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HAhahahahhahahhahahaha

The listed email is incorrect. Drop the 6&1 to get to my email address.

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Same here, Kimberly;  I’d *much* rather read a good book. I agree with you on that one. Books are much better.

I wasn’t aware of the law against doing both. — "Will the highways on the Internet become more few?" — Candidate GW Bush, Concord, N.H., Jan. 29, 2000

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – (although why anyone would care who won "Survivor" still escapes me), Thought I was the only one who felt that way. LOL, I don’t watch TV so I’m totally lost on the subject. Kimberly Same here, Kimberly;  I’d *much* rather read a good book. I agree with you on that one. Books are much better. Kimberly

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Same here, Kimberly;  I’d *much* rather read a good book. I agree with you on that one. Books are much better. I wasn’t aware of the law against doing both.

Noone said that there was a law against either. It’s a matter of preference. I grew up without TV so it still doesn’t play a role in my adult life either. Kimberly

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Who’s Tina? Why the gal in the Outback..

What does a Subaru have to do with this? — Bill Funk bfunk1 on Ebay

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I’ve got the kavorka, LeftCoast C.C., the lure of the animal. I’m dangerous! HAhahahahhahahhahahaha Oh THANKS. sheeesh.

I taped the damn show so I could watch it at my leisure tonight after work. I fucking hate assholes that don’t use spoilers. —    Pat Buchanan recently changed his stance on abortion. He will now    approve of an abortion, in the case of rape, in the first trimester    BUT only if the rapist is black, hispanic, Jewish, or gay.  —Judy Gold

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I know, Richard. I just found it ironic that her/his attempts to mute the impact of obscenities by using symbols went for naught. — "Will the highways on the Internet become more few?" — Candidate GW Bush, Concord, N.H., Jan. 29, 2000

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – While I can understand why Carniv4 was upset (although why anyone would care who won "Survivor" still escapes me), there isn’t a great deal to be gained by a post full of obscenities.  While admittedly usenet can be a bit of a rough place at times, and people reading posts in a newsgroup should be aware of that, giving some thought to others sensibilities isn’t all that unreasonable an idea.  After all, this is primarily a group for the discussion of eBay marketing, and you’d expect somewhat more civil behavior in what is essentially a business group.  The signal to noise ratio in this group has been deteriorating recently as it is, we need to try and keep this a place where you can actually exchange information on eBay marketing in a civil manner.  Just my opinion. Richard Ward Next time the networks announce election results before you’ve voted, be sure you call them up and use similar language. It’s not apprciated here, either. What language? All I saw were some stars! Fred, you must be on the Right Coast. This sort of thing makes us crazy. — "Will the highways on the Internet become more few?" — Candidate GW Bush, Concord, N.H., Jan. 29, 2000 I’m not reading this post, but if the header is true, YOU ARE A ****ING ***HOLE – I am on the west coast and the show has yet to begin.   If you blew the outcome, you are a ****in’ MORON. Next time the networks announce election results before you’ve voted, be sure you call them up and use similar language. It’s not apprciated here, either. — "Give a man a fish and he eats for a day.  Teach a man to fish and he  gets hit by an American nuclear submarine." -Ancient Japanese Proverb

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I taped the damn show so I could watch it at my leisure tonight after work. I fucking hate assholes that don’t use spoilers.

A friend and I had a bet going. He watches the thing religiously; I’d never seen it. I told him I could guess who would win just by watching the last show. If I was right, it was a lobster dinner for me. As excruciatingly honest as I am , I couldn’t pull it off. Dang. — "Will the highways on the Internet become more few?" — Candidate GW Bush, Concord, N.H., Jan. 29, 2000

I’ve got the kavorka, LeftCoast C.C., the lure of the animal. I’m dangerous!

HAhahahahhahahhahahaha Oh THANKS. sheeesh. I taped the damn show so I could watch it at my leisure tonight after work. I fucking hate assholes that don’t use spoilers. —    Pat Buchanan recently changed his stance on abortion. He will now    approve of an abortion, in the case of rape, in the first trimester    BUT only if the rapist is black, hispanic, Jewish, or gay.  —Judy

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I know, Richard. I just found it ironic that her/his attempts to mute the impact of obscenities by using symbols went for naught.

I don’t think so.  Everyone knew exactly what was being blanked out, but we didn’t need it smacking us in the face. — "Give a man a fish and he eats for a day.  Teach a man to fish and he  gets hit by an American nuclear submarine." -Ancient Japanese Proverb

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(although why anyone would care who won "Survivor" still escapes me),

Thought I was the only one who felt that way.

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(although why anyone would care who won "Survivor" still escapes me), Thought I was the only one who felt that way.

LOL, I don’t watch TV so I’m totally lost on the subject. Kimberly – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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I know, Richard. I just found it ironic that her/his attempts to mute the impact of obscenities by using symbols went for naught. I don’t think so.  Everyone knew exactly what was being blanked out, but we didn’t need it smacking us in the face.

Yep. That’s what "went for naught" means. — "Will the highways on the Internet become more few?" — Candidate GW Bush, Concord, N.H., Jan. 29, 2000 – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I know, Richard. I just found it ironic that her/his attempts to mute the impact of obscenities by using symbols went for naught. I don’t think so.  Everyone knew exactly what was being blanked out, but we didn’t need it smacking us in the face. — "Give a man a fish and he eats for a day.  Teach a man to fish and he  gets hit by an American nuclear submarine." -Ancient Japanese Proverb

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HAhahahahhahahhahahaha

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Oh THANKS. sheeesh. — "I think we agree, the past is over." — Candidate GW Bush, on his meeting with John McCain, Dallas Morning News, May 10, 2000 – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – HAhahahahhahahhahahaha

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I’m not reading this post, but if the header is true, YOU ARE A FUCKING ASSHOLE – I am on the west coast and the show has yet to begin.   If you blew the outcome, you are a fuckin’ MORON. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – HAhahahahhahahhahahaha

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HAhahahahhahahhahahaha

If so, I just made a killing (and I don’t even watch Survivor). Kris

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I’m not reading this post, but if the header is true, YOU ARE A ****ING ***HOLE – I am on the west coast and the show has yet to begin.   If you blew the outcome, you are a ****in’ MORON.

Next time the networks announce election results before you’ve voted, be sure you call them up and use similar language. It’s not apprciated here, either. — "Give a man a fish and he eats for a day.  Teach a man to fish and he  gets hit by an American nuclear submarine." -Ancient Japanese Proverb

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Next time the networks announce election results before you’ve voted, be sure you call them up and use similar language. It’s not apprciated here, either.

What language? All I saw were some stars! Fred, you must be on the Right Coast. This sort of thing makes us crazy. — "Will the highways on the Internet become more few?" — Candidate GW Bush, Concord, N.H., Jan. 29, 2000 – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m not reading this post, but if the header is true, YOU ARE A ****ING ***HOLE – I am on the west coast and the show has yet to begin.   If you blew the outcome, you are a ****in’ MORON. Next time the networks announce election results before you’ve voted, be sure you call them up and use similar language. It’s not apprciated here, either. — "Give a man a fish and he eats for a day.  Teach a man to fish and he  gets hit by an American nuclear submarine." -Ancient Japanese Proverb

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While I can understand why Carniv4 was upset (although why anyone would care who won "Survivor" still escapes me), there isn’t a great deal to be gained by a post full of obscenities.  While admittedly usenet can be a bit of a rough place at times, and people reading posts in a newsgroup should be aware of that, giving some thought to others sensibilities isn’t all that unreasonable an idea.  After all, this is primarily a group for the discussion of eBay marketing, and you’d expect somewhat more civil behavior in what is essentially a business group.  The signal to noise ratio in this group has been deteriorating recently as it is, we need to try and keep this a place where you can actually exchange information on eBay marketing in a civil manner.  Just my opinion. Richard Ward – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Next time the networks announce election results before you’ve voted, be sure you call them up and use similar language. It’s not apprciated here, either. What language? All I saw were some stars! Fred, you must be on the Right Coast. This sort of thing makes us crazy. — "Will the highways on the Internet become more few?" — Candidate GW Bush, Concord, N.H., Jan. 29, 2000 I’m not reading this post, but if the header is true, YOU ARE A ****ING ***HOLE – I am on the west coast and the show has yet to begin.   If you blew the outcome, you are a ****in’ MORON. Next time the networks announce election results before you’ve voted, be sure you call them up and use similar language. It’s not apprciated here, either. — "Give a man a fish and he eats for a day.  Teach a man to fish and he  gets hit by an American nuclear submarine." -Ancient Japanese Proverb

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That’s why I don’t use 10 day auctions and will stop using BIN when they atart charging.  While they are nice features, they are by no means necessary. Richard Ward wrote – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -From a purely logical standpoint, the longer it’s free, the harder it will be to change it to a paid option.  Of course, if eBay always worked that way, they wouldn’t have charged extra for ten day auctions.

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Oh, geez!  Everybody wants something for nothing.  You sold the item at the price you set.  IOW: You got what you wanted.  Get over it. prince of Tides wrote – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -ACtually, it should allow a rebate as to the percentage of time it relieves the load on the servers.

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That’s why I don’t use 10 day auctions and will stop using BIN when they

atart charging.  While they are nice features, they are by no means necessary."the Dave" Vanilla Power!  

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ACtually, it should allow a rebate as to the percentage of time it relieves the load on the servers.

| | Anyone looked at the eBay marketing announcements board?  They state | that the free BIN period has been extended through the second quarter, | i.e., through the end of June. | | It should be be free forever, as far as I’m concerned. | | Look at it this way … Ebay charges 10 cents extra for 10 day auctions because | of the wear and tear on their servers (ha ha) … since most BIN purchases are | made very soon after the auction is posted, the fee should be the opposite … | i.e., next to … if not … nothing! |

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From a purely logical standpoint, the longer it’s free, the harder it will be to change it to a paid option.  Of course, if eBay always worked that way, they wouldn’t have charged extra for ten day auctions. Richard Ward – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Anyone looked at the eBay marketing announcements board?  They state that the free BIN period has been extended through the second quarter, i.e., through the end of June. It should be be free forever, as far as I’m concerned. Look at it this way … Ebay charges 10 cents extra for 10 day auctions because of the wear and tear on their servers (ha ha) … since most BIN purchases are made very soon after the auction is posted, the fee should be the opposite … i.e., next to … if not … nothing!

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They just did the split-off thing a couple of days ago.  Another annoyance, IMO.  Now you get to do 2 steps instead of 1.

: Anyone looked at the eBay marketing announcements board?  They state : that the free BIN period has been extended through the second quarter, : i.e., through the end of June.  By the way, is it just me, or didn’t : this all used to appear on just one announcement board?  When did they : split the policy announcments off from the service announcement board? : : Richard Ward

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By the way, is it just me, or didn’t this all used to appear on just one announcement board?  When did they split the policy announcments off from the service announcement board? Richard Ward

They just split the board a couple of days ago — the 29th I think…… they’ve got the miscellaneous announcements (policy/fee changes, new features, etc.) on one screen and they’ve put the system status announcements on another screen. I found out about it when I clicked on the "Announcements" link that appears on the bottom of every page and was bumped to the new Community Overview page that basically shows the split of the  two boards. I don’t know how useful those radio buttons will be indicating the availability of the system, though.  Seems like by the time they posted the system’s unavailability on the radio button, the system would usually be available again.   They did the same thing indicating system status with my ISP and it’s virtually useless as a true indicator of system status. Rita

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Anyone looked at the eBay marketing announcements board?  They state that the free BIN period has been extended through the second quarter, i.e., through the end of June.

It should be be free forever, as far as I’m concerned. Look at it this way … Ebay charges 10 cents extra for 10 day auctions because of the wear and tear on their servers (ha ha) … since most BIN purchases are made very soon after the auction is posted, the fee should be the opposite … i.e., next to … if not … nothing!

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Anyone looked at the eBay marketing announcements board?  They state that the free BIN period has been extended through the second quarter, i.e., through the end of June.  By the way, is it just me, or didn’t this all used to appear on just one announcement board?  When did they split the policy announcments off from the service announcement board? Richard Ward

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Hi, I found this site to be very helpfull in helping me sell stuff on eBay. They have a book their called eBay Marketing 2001, & since using it I’ve made a shed load of cash! Take a look and let me know what you think. http://www.infoproduct.co.uk/computers_internet/computers_internet.htm

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Looks like nothing but common sense information you can figure out for yourself, or obtain here in the newsgroup in a more up-to-date form (and from a much broader cross-section of grizzled experts) here in the news group. I do concede you could make a shed load of cash from this book, since the link pays you a commission for every book sold.  How is it working out?  Are people willing to purchase a book with an unspecified number of pages by an anonymous author? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi, I found this site to be very helpfull in helping me sell stuff on eBay. They have a book their called eBay Marketing 2001, & since using it I’ve made a shed load of cash! Take a look and let me know what you think. http://www.infoproduct.co.uk/computers_internet/computers_internet.htm

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Hi, I recently read  this book and since then my sales at eBay have exploded! Check it out and let me know what you think. See ya later. http://www.infoproduct.co.uk/computers_internet/internet_marketing/co… _internet_marketing.htm

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Hi, I recently read  this book and since then my sales at eBay have exploded!

Perhaps he meant "bombed" instead of "exploded"

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Hi, I recently read  this book and since then my sales at eBay have exploded! Check it out and let me know what you think. See ya later. http://www.infoproduct.co.uk/computers_internet/internet_marketing/co… _internet_marketing.htm

I think you are a disingenious spammer. Hope somebody posts the book to alt.binaries.e-book so we can..er…..evaluate it.

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Over a year ago, I bought one to check it out.  It is the same CD they sell today and guess what?  I looked at it ONCE and realized I had been had.  All the info on that worthless CD can be found by simply searching through your browser for the stuff.   WORTHLESS~! Sherry

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – There seems to be a lot of those "how to get rich with ebay" CDs on ebay in the wholesale section.  Are any of the any good?  Or how about the ebay marketing pamphlets?  I’m thinking about buying anyone of these, any suggestions. Thanks

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There seems to be a lot of those "how to get rich with ebay" CDs on ebay in the wholesale section.  Are any of the any good?  Or how about the ebay marketing pamphlets?  I’m thinking about buying anyone of these, any suggestions. Thanks

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Since most of them are a few dollars at most (at least the ones I’ve seen), what can it hurt other than the loss of that much money? FOr a newbie, there are bound to be a few good tips at least. I think, though, that hanging out here is a much better bet. More meaty help, and some great jokes along the way. There seems to be a lot of those "how to get rich with ebay" CDs on ebay in the wholesale section.  Are any of the any good?  Or how about the ebay marketing pamphlets?  I’m thinking about buying anyone of these, any suggestions. Thanks

Bill Funk bfunk1 on Ebay

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I’ve sold a few items successfully on ebay, but now I’d like to step it up and sell some more expensive items.  It would be nice to have some tips on how to "package" the ebay ad to maximize the final price.  I’ve seen some books along the "Ebay For Dummies" line that claim to have suggestions like this, but I imagine that most of those books are taken up with stuff that I already know.  Can someone recommend a book or a web site or something that will give me the info I’m looking for? Thanks in advance, -Ben — Benjamin Lotto

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I’ve sold a few items successfully on ebay, but now I’d like to step it up and sell some more expensive items.  It would be nice to have some tips on how to "package" the ebay ad to maximize the final price.  I’ve seen some books along the "Ebay For Dummies" line that claim to have suggestions like this, but I imagine that most of those books are taken up with stuff that I already know.  Can someone recommend a book or a web site or something that will give me the info I’m looking for?

Search eBay’s completed auctions for items you’re interested in selling.   Take a look at those auctions – both the ones that closed high and the ones that closed low.  See what the Sellers did that was sucessful. IMO, you’ll learn far more from looking at actual auctions and participating in this newsgroup than you’ll get from any eBay how-to book… – Dan. — – South Jersey, USA, Earth  <http://www.crosswinds.net/~darmok – Billions of people walking around – like Happy Meals with legs.

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