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		<title>&quot;Located in UK&quot; search returns US sellers</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2003 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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I have been doing searches (for a 256Mb Secure Digital card) but I am  only interested in buying from a seller located in the UK.  However&#44; even though my advanced search includes &#34;Items located in &#8230;  United Kingdom&#34;&#44; a number of the items it returns are from US-based  sellers where they [...]]]></description>
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<p>I have been doing searches (for a 256Mb Secure Digital card) but I am  only interested in buying from a seller located in the UK.  However&#44; even though my advanced search includes &quot;Items located in &#8230;  United Kingdom&quot;&#44; a number of the items it returns are from US-based  sellers where they state that the items are located in the US and will  be shipped from there. Examples are 2950586686 and 2950832233.  1) Is there any way that I can filter these out from my search?  2) Are they breaking any eBay rules?  &#8212;  Philip </p>
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<p>  I have been doing searches (for a 256Mb Secure Digital card) but I am   only interested in buying from a seller located in the UK.   However&#44; even though my advanced search includes &quot;Items located in &#8230;   United Kingdom&quot;&#44; a number of the items it returns are from US-based   sellers where they state that the items are located in the US and will   be shipped from there. Examples are 2950586686 and 2950832233.   1) Is there any way that I can filter these out from my search?   2) Are they breaking any eBay rules? </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know of a way to filter them&#44; it appears to be a quirk in the  way eBay performs the search. &nbsp;Since the buyer is in the US and has his  location listed in the US&#44; I can&#8217;t see what rule he&#8217;d be breaking.  Listing in the UK site is an option on Turbo Lister&#44; which is an eBay  product that this seller used to list his auction&#44; and apparently the  search for items listed in the UK brings up all items listed on eBay.UK&#44;  where ever the item is really located. </p>
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		<title>ebay with its new popup ads</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2003 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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 &#8211; Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text &#8211;  Hey Im going to sue ebay unless they take their stupid ass pop ads off   its spam and im getting sick of one little pop up that ebay throws up that   turns into twenty popups and crashes my computer  [...]]]></description>
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<p> &#8211; Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text &#8211;  Hey Im going to sue ebay unless they take their stupid ass pop ads off   its spam and im getting sick of one little pop up that ebay throws up that   turns into twenty popups and crashes my computer   why the hell does ebay have popup ads   popups will destroy your company   WHAT &quot;popups&quot;&#8230;?   I use eBay ALL the time&#44; and don&#8217;t see any popups.   Both Internet Explorer and Netscape&#8230; and NO popups.   No special &quot;popup killer&quot; software&#44; and NO popups.   You seem to be seriously confused.   BobR  I never see them either&#44; Bob&#44; and thought there weren&#8217;t any.  But if you go into eBay through the home page much (which I hardly ever  do)&#44; you *will* see some.  Mac </p>
<p>Well&#44; now I &nbsp;-really- &nbsp;feel left out..!  I just went in through eBay&#8217;s &quot;front door&quot; and didn&#8217;t get a single  popup..!!!  I&#8217;m going to sue eBay for making me feel bad..!! &nbsp; Wah..!  (So that&#8217;s what the front door looks like now&#8230; hmm.. Video Games&#8230;  Arcade Machines&#8230; &nbsp;stop..! &nbsp;stop..!!)  BobR </p>
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<p>right somehow this stupid ass program called  LOP was installed on my computer piece of crap program took over everything  finally got it off after hours of figuring it out </p>
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<p> right somehow this stupid ass program called </p>
<p>Now apologize to eBay for threatening to sue them&#44; and turn your vitriol  towards the true offender. </p>
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<p>I wish I could  ebay is easiest tho  <img src='http://marketingonlinereview.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   sue sue sue sue  give me money for nothing while I ruin your life </p>
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<p>I just went to eBay.com homepage and clicked away and I did get a pop-up  ad&#8230;.they are doing it as it was for an eBay product the dads and grads  tingy that they have plastered on their homepage.  The page that popped up was;  http://pages.ebay.com/merchpopup/dadgradA.html  eBay always claimed in the UK forums they would never use pop up  advertising&#8230;..  I&#8217;m not going to be suing them for using legal but annoying advertising  techniques tho <img src='http://marketingonlinereview.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p> &#8211; Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text &#8211; Odd&#44; I have spent a lot of time on Ebay lately and have *never* gotten a   popup. &nbsp;You might check out Pest Patrol&#44; I suspect you have a little ad   program hiding on your PC that places popups and buttons so they look like   they&#8217;re part of a site.   Hope this helps&#44; Paul E.    Hey Im going to sue ebay unless they take their stupid ass pop ads off    its spam and im getting sick of one little pop up that ebay throws up  that    turns into twenty popups and crashes my computer    why the hell does ebay have popup ads    popups will destroy your company  </p>
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<p> muttered something like:   I just went to eBay.com homepage and clicked away and I did get a pop-up   ad&#8230;.they are doing it as it was for an eBay product the dads and grads   tingy that they have plastered on their homepage. </p>
<p>One of the many reasons I use Mozilla; you can turn off pop-ups without  needing any third-party programs.  -Bertha (not an employee&#44; etc.)  &#8212;  If I want your opinion&#44; I&#8217;ll read your entrails. </p>
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<p>   I just went to eBay.com homepage and clicked away and I did get a pop-up   ad&#8230;.they are doing it as it was for an eBay product the dads and grads   tingy that they have plastered on their homepage. </p>
<p>Worse than pop-ups&#44; perhaps&#44; is spyware. Each time I go to eBay&#44; the site  tries to install &#8216;Mediaplex&#8217;&#44; which Spybot informs me is a known threat. </p>
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<p>  I just went to eBay.com homepage and clicked away and I did get a pop-up   ad&#8230;.they are doing it as it was for an eBay product the dads and grads   tingy that they have plastered on their homepage.  Worse than pop-ups&#44; perhaps&#44; is spyware. Each time I go to eBay&#44; the site  tries to install &#8216;Mediaplex&#8217;&#44; which Spybot informs me is a known threat. </p>
<p>Well.. that&#8217;s the final straw..!!  I&#8217;m gonna suem now for sure..!!  They&#8217;ve NEVER tried to install &quot;Mediaplex&quot; or anything else on my  system&#8230;. &nbsp; I feel left out..!  No popups either..!!!  eBay sux fer sure!!  BobR </p>
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<p> and the people who put nospam in their email addy im sure they get lots of   business </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t seek &quot;business&quot; through this newsgroup. That&#8217;s what eBay is for.  Nobody&#8217;s had a problem reaching me yet&#44; and spam on this account is at a  minimum accordingly. Try it sometime; you may just learn something. </p>
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<p>Odd&#44; I have spent a lot of time on Ebay lately and have *never* gotten a  popup. &nbsp;You might check out Pest Patrol&#44; I suspect you have a little ad  program hiding on your PC that places popups and buttons so they look like  they&#8217;re part of a site.  Hope this helps&#44; Paul E. </p>
<p> &#8211; Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text &#8211; Hey Im going to sue ebay unless they take their stupid ass pop ads off   its spam and im getting sick of one little pop up that ebay throws up that   turns into twenty popups and crashes my computer   why the hell does ebay have popup ads   popups will destroy your company  </p>
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<p> Hey Im going to sue ebay unless they take their stupid ass pop ads off  its spam and im getting sick of one little pop up that ebay throws up that  turns into twenty popups and crashes my computer  why the hell does ebay have popup ads  popups will destroy your company </p>
<p>WHAT &quot;popups&quot;&#8230;?  I use eBay ALL the time&#44; and don&#8217;t see any popups.  Both Internet Explorer and Netscape&#8230; and NO popups.  No special &quot;popup killer&quot; software&#44; and NO popups.  You seem to be seriously confused.  BobR </p>
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<p> &#8211; Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text &#8211;  Hey Im going to sue ebay unless they take their stupid ass pop ads off   its spam and im getting sick of one little pop up that ebay throws up that   turns into twenty popups and crashes my computer   why the hell does ebay have popup ads   popups will destroy your company   WHAT &quot;popups&quot;&#8230;?   I use eBay ALL the time&#44; and don&#8217;t see any popups.   Both Internet Explorer and Netscape&#8230; and NO popups.   No special &quot;popup killer&quot; software&#44; and NO popups.   You seem to be seriously confused.   BobR </p>
<p>I never see them either&#44; Bob&#44; and thought there weren&#8217;t any.  But if you go into eBay through the home page much (which I hardly ever  do)&#44; you *will* see some.  Mac </p>
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<p> Hey Im going to sue ebay unless they take their stupid ass pop ads off </p>
<p>You go right ahead and do that. I&#8217;m getting the popcorn ready&#44; as you  probably have entirely separate malware on your system which is feeding ads  based on where it sees you going&#44; and eBay being a popular place would be a  big target for that.  Ad-Aware is a great program for removing such tripe&#44; and you may just save  yourself the embarassment of a misdirected lawsuit (as if I thought it would  ever get past the hot-air stage). </p>
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<p> Hey Im going to sue ebay unless they take their stupid ass pop ads off  its spam and im getting sick of one little pop up that ebay throws up that  turns into twenty popups and crashes my computer  why the hell does ebay have popup ads  popups will destroy your company </p>
<p>How old are you?  &#8212;  Bigolhomo  www.FirstTimeGuys.com </p>
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<p>  Hey Im going to sue ebay unless they take their stupid ass pop ads off   its spam and im getting sick of one little pop up that ebay throws up that   turns into twenty popups and crashes my computer   why the hell does ebay have popup ads   popups will destroy your company </p>
<p>people are still plagued by pop ups?  http://www.proxomitron.org/  thank me later. </p>
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<p>Hey Im going to sue ebay unless they take their stupid ass pop ads off  its spam and im getting sick of one little pop up that ebay throws up that  turns into twenty popups and crashes my computer  why the hell does ebay have popup ads  popups will destroy your company </p>
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<p>  Hey Im going to sue ebay unless they take their stupid ass pop ads off   its spam and im getting sick of one little pop up that ebay throws up   that turns into twenty popups and crashes my computer   why the hell does ebay have popup ads   popups will destroy your company </p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure Meg&#8217;s shaking in her pumps. Yeah&#44; *you&#8217;re* going to sue eBay.  Pull the other one.  In the meantime&#44; check out: http://www.panicware.com/  &#8212;  Bob </p>
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<p> popups will destroy your company </p>
<p>Just like the lack of spelling and punctuation has destroyed the Internet. </p>
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<p>and the people who put nospam in their email addy im sure they get lots of  business  only from other users who know how to fix it which is only a few  Sorry I didn&#8217;t go back and check my msgs maybe next time I will so I don&#8217;t  get called a bad speller. </p>
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<p> Hey Im going to sue ebay unless they take their stupid ass pop ads off  its spam and im getting sick of one little pop up that ebay throws up that  turns into twenty popups and crashes my computer  why the hell does ebay have popup ads  popups will destroy your company </p>
<p>If you havn&#8217;t figured out how to stop pop-ups by now then you are a  moron and deserve to be ignored. &nbsp; </p>
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		<title>wholesalers / Distributors</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Aug 2002 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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Has anyone ever purchased a list that has actually panned out to be  worthwhile ?  &#8212; 

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While some items can be bought at or below wholesale via eBay&#44; you have to  be cautious of seller overcharging on shipping. Many sellers sell at their  cost&#44; or a bit above&#44; but make their [...]]]></description>
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<p>Has anyone ever purchased a list that has actually panned out to be  worthwhile ?  &#8212; </p>
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<p>While some items can be bought at or below wholesale via eBay&#44; you have to  be cautious of seller overcharging on shipping. Many sellers sell at their  cost&#44; or a bit above&#44; but make their money from the inflated shipping  charges.  To the original poster&#44; no&#44; these &quot;wholesale&quot; lists are &quot;usually&quot; not worth  much.  Vista Wholesale  Novelties&#44; As on Tv&#44; Gifts:  http://www.vistawholesale.com </p>
<p> &#8211; Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text &#8211;   Has anyone ever purchased a list that has actually panned out to be    worthwhile ?    &#8212;   There is no room for an additional finger in the pie.   eBay prices are typically well below wholesale.   See http://www.tinaja.com/auct01.asp for free and useful eBay product   source listings.   &#8212;   Many thanks&#44;   Don Lancaster   Synergetics &nbsp; 3860 West First Street &nbsp;Box 809 &nbsp;Thatcher&#44; AZ 85552   Please visit my GURU&#8217;s LAIR web site at http://www.tinaja.com  </p>
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<p>  While some items can be bought at or below wholesale via eBay&#44; you have to   be cautious of seller overcharging on shipping. Many sellers sell at their   cost&#44; or a bit above&#44; but make their money from the inflated shipping   charges. </p>
<p>While I&#8217;ve noted a few cases of abuse&#44; more commonly I find some sellers  grossly underestimate their shipping and handling costs &#8211; often just charging  for postage. </p>
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		<title>i need ideas</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Aug 2002 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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 what in the world is good to sell in ebay! any ideas or input?   &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;thanks&#8230;.SK 
Underwear. &#160;Everyone needs it.  &#8211; -  DL  http://www.geocities.com/dicklong14_ca/fanclub.htm [...]]]></description>
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<p> what in the world is good to sell in ebay! any ideas or input?   &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;thanks&#8230;.SK </p>
<p>Underwear. &nbsp;Everyone needs it.  &#8211; -  DL  http://www.geocities.com/dicklong14_ca/fanclub.htm   Evidently your buddy Cede</p>
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		<title>Simultaneous closing times for seller lots</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Mar 2001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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  I&#8217;m showing my lack of knowledge here&#44; but &#8211; I&#8217;ve noticed that some sellers   have multiple items for sale (sometimes up to a dozen or more) &#8211; and all the   lots close at the exact same date and time. 
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<p>  I&#8217;m showing my lack of knowledge here&#44; but &#8211; I&#8217;ve noticed that some sellers   have multiple items for sale (sometimes up to a dozen or more) &#8211; and all the   lots close at the exact same date and time. </p>
<p>In general&#44; I&#8217;ve always felt that this is actually a BAD thing. If indeed  a buyer is inclined to bid on more than one of your items to save on  shipping or because they are similar items and desirable to him&#44; there&#8217;s  no time to snipe.  Back when I was selling alot of Corel Photo CDs&#44; I&#8217;ve had a buyer or two  literally go down my list of closing auctions and bid on 10 or more just  before they closed.  So&#44; yeah&#44; Mister Lister&#44; for example&#44; let&#8217;s you post many auctions in one  collection and will launch them&#44; all closing within a second or two of  each other. But even though it&#8217;s more work&#44; when I have similar (but not  identical) items&#44; have felt it better to divy them up.  &#8212;  Mac (doogle) </p>
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<p>I&#8217;m showing my lack of knowledge here&#44; but &#8211; I&#8217;ve noticed that some sellers  have multiple items for sale (sometimes up to a dozen or more) &#8211; and all the  lots close at the exact same date and time. Is there software that allows  you to enter all your lots at the same time &#8211; thus making the closing time  all the same? How is this done? Thanks. </p>
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<p>I&#8217;ve just started using Mr. Lister&#44; which is free software you can  download from Ebay that allows you to upload multiple auctions to Ebay  at one time.  &#8211; Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text &#8211;  I&#8217;m showing my lack of knowledge here&#44; but &#8211; I&#8217;ve noticed that some sellers   have multiple items for sale (sometimes up to a dozen or more) &#8211; and all the   lots close at the exact same date and time. Is there software that allows   you to enter all your lots at the same time &#8211; thus making the closing time   all the same? How is this done? Thanks.  </p>
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<p>There are a few programs that will allow batch posting. I think even eBay  has a feature for it. I use Auctiva&#44; and they just upgraded with batch  posting that&#8217;s supposed to be a snap &#8212; of course&#44; when I tried it&#44; I kept  getting &quot;illegal operation&quot; errors and crashing. C&#8217;est la vie. </p>
<p> &#8211; Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text &#8211; I&#8217;m showing my lack of knowledge here&#44; but &#8211; I&#8217;ve noticed that some  sellers   have multiple items for sale (sometimes up to a dozen or more) &#8211; and all  the   lots close at the exact same date and time. Is there software that allows   you to enter all your lots at the same time &#8211; thus making the closing time   all the same? How is this done? Thanks.  </p>
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<p>Mister Lister&#44; a free eBay product.  &#8211; Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text &#8211;  I&#8217;m showing my lack of knowledge here&#44; but &#8211; I&#8217;ve noticed that some sellers   have multiple items for sale (sometimes up to a dozen or more) &#8211; and all the   lots close at the exact same date and time. Is there software that allows   you to enter all your lots at the same time &#8211; thus making the closing time   all the same? How is this done? Thanks.  </p>
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<p>http://auctionsubmit.com does just what you are inquiring about&#44; and is  free. </p>
<p> &#8211; Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text &#8211; I&#8217;m showing my lack of knowledge here&#44; but &#8211; I&#8217;ve noticed that some  sellers   have multiple items for sale (sometimes up to a dozen or more) &#8211; and all  the   lots close at the exact same date and time. Is there software that allows   you to enter all your lots at the same time &#8211; thus making the closing time   all the same? How is this done? Thanks.  </p>
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How about doing your investigating BEFORE you list an item&#44; especially as a  newbie? &#160;The people who have listed their PC games in the  Photo-Electronics:Games category did so by their own free will&#44; not eBay&#8217;s. &#160;I&#8217;m  not saying the category is correct. &#160;But&#44; it appears to be where the masses are  [...]]]></description>
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<p>How about doing your investigating BEFORE you list an item&#44; especially as a  newbie? &nbsp;The people who have listed their PC games in the  Photo-Electronics:Games category did so by their own free will&#44; not eBay&#8217;s. &nbsp;I&#8217;m  not saying the category is correct. &nbsp;But&#44; it appears to be where the masses are  placing their auctions.  Also&#44; for what it is worth&#44; a good number of folks will argue that categories  are not as important as good titles and descriptions. &nbsp;This is based upon the  idea that many people do keyword searches to find items they are looking for.  You&#8217;ll find eBay is probably a lot more difficult to change than to work with  its faults.  Mike Tedeschi  &#8211; Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text &#8211; You are new to eBay. You have a pc game to sell. You click SELL.  First window you see is a page with major catagories.  You look and see this setup link: _Computers_ &#44; software&#44;games&#44;&#8230;etc.  You complete the auction setup in that catagorey.  You view your auction catagorey for others selling pc games and see  maybe one other pc game.  Then you find the vast vast majority(90%) of pc games for sale  are in Photo-Electronics:Games&#44; NOT COMPUTERS&#44;as you were first directed  to.  Look&#44; don&#8217;t tell me I can switch catagories&#44;thats not the point.  There&#8217;s  a blatant error in the setup SELL page. Noone is selling pc games in:  Computers.  I emailed them last month and they say they have forwared my suggestion  to their  catogorey review board.No change. I think they automate replies with  keywordings. &nbsp;  Go see for yourself. Hundreds if not thousands of pc games listed under  Photo Electronics:Games.  A new user should not be misdirected so.  I wonder if a few of you wouldn&#8217;t mind forwarding this email to eBay  (after confirming).  If for no other reason&#44;to see if eBay needs a lot of  emails to set them into some kind of action&#44; even if it&#8217;s not a really  serious issue or flaw.  I suppose there are bigger issues&#44; so maybe&#8230;nevermind.  jdc  </p>
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<p> How about doing your investigating BEFORE you list an item&#44; especially as a  newbie? </p>
<p>Be gentle; the very definition of &quot;newbie&quot; is probably &quot;person who makes a lot  of irritating mistakes&quot;&#44; irritating to self and others.  The people who have listed their PC games in the Photo-Electronics:Games  category did so by their own free will&#44; not eBay&#8217;s. </p>
<p>Right: in US jingoese: &quot;&#8230;the right of the people to peacably assemble&#8230;&quot;.  I&#8217;m not saying the category is correct. &nbsp;But&#44; it appears to be where  the masses are placing their auctions. </p>
<p>Just like Net newsgroups; give time for a crowd to assemble&#44; then start selling  tickets while you can&#44; before the flock veers away.  Also&#44; for what it is worth&#44; a good number of folks will argue that categories  are not as important as good titles and descriptions. &nbsp;This is based upon the  idea that many people do keyword searches to find items they are looking for. </p>
<p>Very good idea&#44; the whole point of searching is to get the information seen in  mind but somewhere just out of reach on the web site.  You&#8217;ll find eBay is probably a lot more difficult to change than to work with  its faults. </p>
<p>Speaking from within eBay Product Development&#44; you have no idea how much  harder. &nbsp;The categories issue is under pretty much continuous review and  categories are split&#44; changed&#44; whatever works&#44; on a fairly regular basis. &nbsp;They  still need even more splitting to make the volume of each smaller&#44; so that  searching a particular category for an item of the type to be found there gets  less painful&#44; but then the categories themselves&#44; as in the present complaint&#44;  become harder to find. &nbsp;It&#8217;s a puzzlement.  We could probably use a good librarian&#44; book indexer&#44; or other classification  specialist online and inhouse&#44; and for all I know may have several.  I just read  http://www.techweb.com/wire/story/TWB20001005S0004  that university enrollments for librarians in the UK are the only ones going up  faster than the ones for web technologists. &nbsp;May be a cause and effect  relationship there.  Also&#44; there is more than one way to slice a pie. &nbsp;Take a look at  http://www.links2go.com  for a fairly novel approach to a net wide problem: &nbsp;how to get the information  seeker to the information in the least painful way possible. &nbsp;This searching&#44;  indexing&#44; classifying&#44; categorizing business is not a done deal by any means&#44;  there are still huge grounds for improvement&#44; at eBay and elsewhere. &nbsp;Don&#8217;t  expect perfection ever&#44; the problem is much too hard. &nbsp;Do expect that eBay is  constantly aware of and working the issue&#44; and that incremental improvements  will continue.  &#8211; Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text -Mike Tedeschi  You are new to eBay. You have a pc game to sell. You click SELL.  First window you see is a page with major catagories.  You look and see this setup link: _Computers_ &#44; software&#44;games&#44;&#8230;etc.  You complete the auction setup in that catagorey.  You view your auction catagorey for others selling pc games and see  maybe one other pc game.  Then you find the vast vast majority(90%) of pc games for sale  are in Photo-Electronics:Games&#44; NOT COMPUTERS&#44;as you were first directed  to.  Look&#44; don&#8217;t tell me I can switch catagories&#44;thats not the point.  There&#8217;s  a blatant error in the setup SELL page. Noone is selling pc games in:  Computers.  I emailed them last month and they say they have forwared my suggestion  to their catogorey review board. No change. </p>
<p>A month is far shorter than a software development cycle. &nbsp;For lots of  enterprises&#44; software updates range from twice a year to once every two years.  Here at eBay we are lunatics&#44; we try to do a rollout a week&#44; but that doesn&#8217;t  mean in the door and out onto the site in a month. &nbsp;A month probably won&#8217;t get  the Marketing Requirements Document written&#44; reviewed&#44; and approved&#44; among all  the other changes competing for attention&#44; though that&#8217;s a guess.  That then has to be translated from Marketing&#8217;s &quot;wouldn&#8217;t it be nice if the  user experience was&quot; to Engineering&#8217;s &quot;here&#8217;s how we plan to support the user  doing&quot; in an Engineering Requirements Document. &nbsp;Then you go from that  architecture level document through design&#44; code&#44; unit test&#44; debug&#44; system  integrate&#44; test&#44; debug&#44; quality assurance in depth testing and user  friendliness testing&#44; debug&#44; rollout to production.  Then the real debugging starts&#44; as scenarios never envisioned in testing hammer  our &quot;poor defenseless&quot; code&#44; as of yesterday&#44; at almost 900 megabytes per  second&#44; in and out&#44; a new record. &nbsp;My particular contribution (really low level  internals stuff invisible to users&#44; except as quicker bug fixes if all goes  well&#44; sorry) has been underway since early June&#44; and is just this past week  starting to trickle into the production code&#44; to give you a little more  realistic set of expectations for the necessarily glacial pace of changes in  large&#44; easily broken&#44; difficultly modified&#44; software source code bases.  I think they automate replies with keywordings. &nbsp;  Go see for yourself. Hundreds if not thousands of pc games listed under  Photo Electronics:Games. </p>
<p>On the bright side&#44; I cannot think of anything _else_ that would go in such a  category&#44; except perhaps handheld games&#44; and if you are advertising to game  players&#44; best to advertise where their eyes are already looking.  A new user should not be misdirected so. </p>
<p>Were your first experiences driving a car perfectly smooth? &nbsp;Probably very  little in the owner&#8217;s manual was of help at all. &nbsp;It isn&#8217;t really fair to  expect that your first try will be as easy as your hundred and first try.  The eBay site is&#44; and advertises itself to be&#44; a tool&#44; a &quot;facilitator&quot; in  the words of the help pages. &nbsp;Like all tools&#44; skill grows with use.  I wonder if a few of you wouldn&#8217;t mind forwarding this email to eBay  (after confirming).  If for no other reason&#44;to see if eBay needs a lot of  emails to set them into some kind of action&#44; even if it&#8217;s not a really  serious issue or flaw. </p>
<p>It is amazingly unproductive to try to provoke email carpet bombing of eBay;  for every issue you have with the site&#44; something like 19 million other users  have each probably got a separate &quot;eBay&#8217;s worst feature&quot; all picked out&#44; not  likely to be yours. &nbsp;On the other hand&#44; with 19 million users&#44; I&#8217;m guessing&#44;  just guessing&#44; mind you&#44; that we are doing at least a little bit right&#44; and  that after you get over your first use of a new tool hurdles&#44; you will find  something you like about the site too. &nbsp;I doubt it will be the Photo  Electronics  Games category&#44; though! &nbsp;;-)  I suppose there are bigger issues&#44; so maybe&#8230;nevermind.  jdc </p>
<p>We have a fellow in public relations (VP in charge of&#44; to be precise&#44; or&#44; in  the really just _lovely_ press term&#44; &quot;corporate flack&quot;) who just loves to hear  about ways we are doing things well and ways we could do things better&#44; so  consider your message forwarded.  Speaking just for me&#44; not the folks who sign my paycheck&#44; as ever.  Cheers!  xanthian.  &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;===== random archival quality quote =====  &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Guilty of thread drift again.  &#8212;  Kent Paul Dolan. </p>
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<p>HI JDC&#44;  I know that ebay has been trying to fix some of the screwy categories. &nbsp;They  recently re-did the jewelry category which was a real mess. &nbsp;I sell mostly  pottery and glass in those categories there are misspellings&#44; &nbsp;and several  cases of porcelains in the pottery category and vice versa.  Frustrating&#44; yes. &nbsp;When it will be fixed? Your guess is as good as mine.  Jessica  &#8211; Hide quoted text &#8212; Show quoted text -You are new to eBay. You have a pc game to sell. You click SELL.  First window you see is a page with major catagories.  You look and see this setup link: _Computers_ &#44; software&#44;games&#44;&#8230;etc.  You complete the auction setup in that catagorey.  You view your auction catagorey for others selling pc games and see  maybe one other pc game.  Then you find the vast vast majority(90%) of pc games for sale  are in Photo-Electronics:Games&#44; NOT COMPUTERS&#44;as you were first directed  to.  Look&#44; don&#8217;t tell me I can switch catagories&#44;thats not the point.  There&#8217;s  a blatant error in the setup SELL page. Noone is selling pc games in:  Computers.  I emailed them last month and they say they have forwared my suggestion  to their  catogorey review board.No change. I think they automate replies with  keywordings. &nbsp;  Go see for yourself. Hundreds if not thousands of pc games listed under  Photo Electronics:Games.  A new user should not be misdirected so.  I wonder if a few of you wouldn&#8217;t mind forwarding this email to eBay  (after confirming).  If for no other reason&#44;to see if eBay needs a lot of  emails to set them into some kind of action&#44; even if it&#8217;s not a really  serious issue or flaw.  I suppose there are bigger issues&#44; so maybe&#8230;nevermind.  jdc </p>
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<p>You are new to eBay. You have a pc game to sell. You click SELL.  First window you see is a page with major catagories.  You look and see this setup link: _Computers_ &#44; software&#44;games&#44;&#8230;etc.  You complete the auction setup in that catagorey.  You view your auction catagorey for others selling pc games and see  maybe one other pc game.  Then you find the vast vast majority(90%) of pc games for sale  are in Photo-Electronics:Games&#44; NOT COMPUTERS&#44;as you were first directed  to.  Look&#44; don&#8217;t tell me I can switch catagories&#44;thats not the point.  There&#8217;s  a blatant error in the setup SELL page. Noone is selling pc games in:  Computers.  I emailed them last month and they say they have forwared my suggestion  to their  catogorey review board.No change. I think they automate replies with  keywordings. &nbsp;  Go see for yourself. Hundreds if not thousands of pc games listed under  Photo Electronics:Games.  A new user should not be misdirected so.  I wonder if a few of you wouldn&#8217;t mind forwarding this email to eBay  (after confirming).  If for no other reason&#44;to see if eBay needs a lot of  emails to set them into some kind of action&#44; even if it&#8217;s not a really  serious issue or flaw.  I suppose there are bigger issues&#44; so maybe&#8230;nevermind.  jdc </p>
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