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How to Avoid Getting Cheated on eBay

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One trick that scammers use is to sell a number of low-cost coins or other items to build up positive feedback, then auction off a big-ticket coin and skip town, virtually or otherwise, without sending it.

A trick that ebaY could easily prevent by putting the dollar amount of the auction next to the feedback.  Thus a positive comment next to a 4000 would mean a lot more than a postive comment next to a 5.  Of course, they’ll argue that this would put a drain on system resources, while ignoring the fact that the word "praise" takes up more characters than "P4000". Combined feedback scores could be generated by summing these individual indicators, so that a user with a FB of 100 who specializes in $100 items and a user with a FB of 500 from selling $20 items would both have a weighted P10,000. — Moronization: a form of acculturation where people are encouraged to acquaint themselves with the benefits of a technology without any understanding of the engineering (or lack thereof.) For example: Any Microsoft technology.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – One trick that scammers use is to sell a number of low-cost coins or other items to build up positive feedback, then auction off a big-ticket coin and skip town, virtually or otherwise, without sending it. A trick that ebaY could easily prevent by putting the dollar amount of the auction next to the feedback.  Thus a positive comment next to a 4000 would mean a lot more than a postive comment next to a 5.  Of course, they’ll argue that this would put a drain on system resources, while ignoring the fact that the word "praise" takes up more characters than "P4000". Combined feedback scores could be generated by summing these individual indicators, so that a user with a FB of 100 who specializes in $100 items and a user with a FB of 500 from selling $20 items would both have a weighted P10,000. — Moronization: a form of acculturation where people are encouraged to acquaint themselves with the benefits of a technology without any understanding of the engineering (or lack thereof.) For example: Any Microsoft technology.

They could save the space anyway by limiting the space for comments.  Who Rachael

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – A trick that ebaY could easily prevent by putting the dollar amount of the auction next to the feedback.  Thus a positive comment next to a 4000 would mean a lot more than a postive comment next to a 5.  Of course, they’ll argue that this would put a drain on system resources, while ignoring the fact that the word "praise" takes up more characters than "P4000". Combined feedback scores could be generated by summing these individual indicators, so that a user with a FB of 100 who specializes in $100 items and a user with a FB of 500 from selling $20 items would both have a weighted P10,000.

I like your idea, Fred.  Feedbags measured by weight, not by volume! They could save the space anyway by limiting the space for comments.  Who Rachael

LOL! How many times have I been called ‘A credit to Ebay’? Alan ‘a credit to his race’

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A trick that ebaY could easily prevent by putting the dollar amount of the auction next to the feedback.  Thus a positive comment next to a 4000 would mean a lot more than a postive comment next to a 5.  Of course, they’ll argue that this would put a drain on system resources, while ignoring the fact that the word "praise" takes up more characters than "P4000".

While this may sound like a good idea, I would say that it is another invasion of privacy.  The only people that should know how much a person makes with their eBay career is the accountant and the IRS.  It is nobody elses business. Combined feedback scores could be generated by summing these individual indicators, so that a user with a FB of 100 who specializes in $100 items and a user with a FB of 500 from selling $20 items would both have a weighted P10,000.

As useless as it is, I would say keep the feedback system as it is.  Buyers can get throwaway accounts with great ease and sellers have to weed them out. Rita

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How many times have I been called ‘A credit to Ebay’?

Every time they bill you for the month’s auctions.    ;^) — Moronization: a form of acculturation where people are encouraged to acquaint themselves with the benefits of a technology without any understanding of the engineering (or lack thereof.) For example: Any Microsoft technology.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – One trick that scammers use is to sell a number of low-cost coins or other items to build up positive feedback, then auction off a big-ticket coin and skip town, virtually or otherwise, without sending it. A trick that ebaY could easily prevent by putting the dollar amount of the auction next to the feedback.  Thus a positive comment next to a 4000 would mean a lot more than a postive comment next to a 5.  Of course, they’ll argue that this would put a drain on system resources, while ignoring the fact that the word "praise" takes up more characters than "P4000". Combined feedback scores could be generated by summing these individual indicators, so that a user with a FB of 100 who specializes in $100 items and a user with a FB of 500 from selling $20 items would both have a weighted P10,000. —

Ebay doesn’t want feedback to be useful. I once suggested they have a search for negative/neutral feedback, as I do it anyway, and it would be easier if they provided the filtering. Their response was something to the effect that each positive should be thought equal to a negative, and negatives shouldn’t be singled out for that reason. Bunch of BS… Barry — Note – Remove the X from my e-mail address for direct replies

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A trick that ebaY could easily prevent by putting the dollar amount of the auction next to the feedback.  Thus a positive comment next to a 4000 would mean a lot more than a postive comment next to a 5.  Of course, they’ll argue that this would put a drain on system resources, while ignoring the fact that the word "praise" takes up more characters than "P4000". While this may sound like a good idea, I would say that it is another invasion of privacy.  The only people that should know how much a person makes with their eBay career is the accountant and the IRS.  It is nobody elses business.

1) Given your ebaY ID, I can tell you to the cent what your ebaY sales were in the last month. 2) It wouldn’t tell anyone what you *made*, only what your sales were. 3) It wouldn’t even tell total sales, only the total for sales where feedback was left. — Moronization: a form of acculturation where people are encouraged to acquaint themselves with the benefits of a technology without any understanding of the engineering (or lack thereof.) For example: Any Microsoft technology.

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While this may sound like a good idea, I would say that it is another invasion of privacy.  The only people that should know how much a person makes with their eBay career is the accountant and the IRS.  It is nobody elses business. 1) Given your ebaY ID, I can tell you to the cent what your ebaY sales were in the last month.

And that is the way it should be.  I can live with 30-days knowing that it will drop out of the system.  Thirty days is enough time to research the habits of a scammer.  The problem is that most people don’t look at feedback till they have a problem.  It may seem trivial, but not everyone wants information freely distributed forever. 2) It wouldn’t tell anyone what you *made*, only what your sales were.

And I wouldn’t want what I sold an item for permanently etched in stone for my suppliers or competitors to see.  30 days is enough time. 3) It wouldn’t even tell total sales, only the total for sales where feedback was left.

Exactly, the way the feedback system is today with people not leaving feedback or people leaving feedback to pump up a throw away account, why bother? Rita

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Ebay doesn’t want feedback to be useful. I once suggested they have a search for negative/neutral feedback, as I do it anyway, and it would be easier if they provided the filtering. Their response was something to the effect that each positive should be thought equal to a negative, and negatives shouldn’t be singled out for that reason. Bunch of BS…

Anyone can tell you that it’s about ten times easier to get a positive than a negative.  Unless you’re dealing with real morons or are totally incompetent yourself, negs are not the order of the day. Of course, ebaY is masterful with double talk about things like how only 1 in 40,000 auctions is "confirmed" fraud–after putting every possible roadblock in the way of getting such confirmation. The other one I like is that they can’t expand the title to 80 characters instead of 45 because it will slow down searches, yet the same search function can do a search of the listings themselves, with thousands of characters.  And they every recommend that people search that way! — Moronization: a form of acculturation where people are encouraged to acquaint themselves with the benefits of a technology without any understanding of the engineering (or lack thereof.) For example: Any Microsoft technology.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – While this may sound like a good idea, I would say that it is another invasion of privacy.  The only people that should know how much a person makes with their eBay career is the accountant and the IRS.  It is nobody elses business. 1) Given your ebaY ID, I can tell you to the cent what your ebaY sales were in the last month. And that is the way it should be.  I can live with 30-days knowing that it will drop out of the system.  Thirty days is enough time to research the habits of a scammer.  The problem is that most people don’t look at feedback till they have a problem.  It may seem trivial, but not everyone wants information freely distributed forever. 2) It wouldn’t tell anyone what you *made*, only what your sales were. And I wouldn’t want what I sold an item for permanently etched in stone for my suppliers or competitors to see.  30 days is enough time. 3) It wouldn’t even tell total sales, only the total for sales where feedback was left. Exactly, the way the feedback system is today with people not leaving feedback or people leaving feedback to pump up a throw away account, why bother? Rita

It could be set up so that the user can set a parameter to govern whether dollar sales will be listed with the feedback.  Those who feel it is an invasion of privacy can just choose not to list the dollars.

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