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Taxes are by definition a source of money for the government. This is a surprise? People seem to forget that sales/personal income taxes were first introduced as a "temporary" measure to finance the war effort. Then, after the war, taxes were a continued "temporary" measure to help finance the rebuilding effort. Over the decades, people have been gradually brainwashed into believing that it is their patriotic duty to pay taxes. Anybody who doesn’t make a concerted effort to avoid paying taxes whenever possible should go join a flock with the rest of the sheep.
Since the government in the US is the biggest employer, and as the population ages more people will be getting entitlement programs those two factions will FIGHT to keep taxes high. Between the public service unions, the military, and AARP there is no way in hell taxes will come down more then a pittance. The tax money pays people who use their money to purchase congresspeople who will collect more taxes to pay people who will give money to the congresspeople. Its a parliament of whores.
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| | Taxes are by definition a source of money for the government. This is | a surprise? | <snip | Since the government in the US is the biggest employer, and as the | population ages more people will be getting entitlement programs those | two factions will FIGHT to keep taxes high. Between the public service | unions, the military, and AARP there is no way in hell taxes will come | down more then a pittance. | | The tax money pays people who use their money to purchase congresspeople | who will collect more taxes to pay people who will give money to the | congresspeople. | | Its a parliament of whores. | That you, P.J.?
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – | | Taxes are by definition a source of money for the government. This is | a surprise? | <snip | Since the government in the US is the biggest employer, and as the | population ages more people will be getting entitlement programs those | two factions will FIGHT to keep taxes high. Between the public service | unions, the military, and AARP there is no way in hell taxes will come | down more then a pittance. | | The tax money pays people who use their money to purchase congresspeople | who will collect more taxes to pay people who will give money to the | congresspeople. | | Its a parliament of whores. | That you, P.J.?
I read that also
— Mac
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@sam.rr.com says… That you, P.J.?
No… just a fan… Its too bad that that fat toad Limbaugh is the mouthpiece of the GOP instead of P.J.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Canada Customs has implemented extra taxes over the past year. Both GST and PST + duty (if applicable). They charge taxes on used items even though the same used item in Canada would not be taxed if you bought it in the same manner in Canada. They are punishing people who buy used items out of country. The only way to fight back is to try to get out of some of the taxes. The Canadian gov’t has gouged the Canadian public so much that we are all rebelling by trying to avoid these crazy high taxes. The underground economy in Canada is HUGE as is bartering. Of course this may start the argument that taxes might not be so high if everyone paid what they were supposed to… Is more common to ask "whats the cash price" (to avoid the taxes) when buying something in Canada that its almost second nature. It doesn’t hurt to ask the seller about the "gift" issue. Worst thing they can say is no. I have no problem with paying applicable duties but I object to their collection of PST and GST on items that would not be charged in Canada on. Just a price of doing business out of country now and I keep that in mind before I bid on an item. Anyone with similar experiences? Why do you think that is so – just my unusual experience, or is there more incentive to Canadians for them to request that I falsify the customs form – perhaps their customs duties are so high it creates pressure on them? Or perhaps in the Canadian society this is an accepted behavior?
These high taxes and "duties" are just the price Canadians pay for their "free" health care. Socialism causes these problems. Thank God Hilary (one "L" or two, I can never remember…) wasn’t able to pass that crap here. We have high enough taxes as it is. Rusty
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These high taxes and "duties" are just the price Canadians pay for their "free" health care. Socialism causes these problems.
No, on average, a US citizen spends more on health care than a Canadian. If we didn’t pay for our health care through our taxes, we’d end up paying more through a privatized system. Socialized medicine works because of the economy of scale; that’s why most industrialized nations have a socialized medical system. And while health care is a big chunk of the federal and provincial budgets, you have to realize that it costs Canadians more, per capita, for infrastructure costs like highways and such than Americans, because we have 15% of your population living over almost half again as large an area. Even if health care were privatized, our taxes would *need* to be higher than US taxes, simply because of the lower population density. Labelling it "a problem of socialism" is a narrow-minded and fallacious way of thinking.
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These high taxes and "duties" are just the price Canadians pay for their "free" health care. Socialism causes these problems.
The Canadian government, both provincial and federal, is far from "socialist" these days. Thank God Hilary (one "L" or two, I can never remember…) wasn’t able to pass that crap here. We have high enough taxes as it is.
Remember this the next time you get shot and have to go to the hospital… ";-/
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – These high taxes and "duties" are just the price Canadians pay for their "free" health care. Socialism causes these problems. No, on average, a US citizen spends more on health care than a Canadian. If we didn’t pay for our health care through our taxes, we’d end up paying more through a privatized system. Socialized medicine works because of the economy of scale; that’s why most industrialized nations have a socialized medical system. And while health care is a big chunk of the federal and provincial budgets, you have to realize that it costs Canadians more, per capita, for infrastructure costs like highways and such than Americans, because we have 15% of your population living over almost half again as large an area. Even if health care were privatized, our taxes would *need* to be higher than US taxes, simply because of the lower population density. Labelling it "a problem of socialism" is a narrow-minded and fallacious way of thinking.
It is neither narrow-minded nor fallacious, it’s the truth. And if your system is so great, explain why your people come here for health care when afforded the opportunity. Rusty
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – These high taxes and "duties" are just the price Canadians pay for their "free" health care. Socialism causes these problems. The Canadian government, both provincial and federal, is far from "socialist" these days. Thank God Hilary (one "L" or two, I can never remember…) wasn’t able to pass that crap here. We have high enough taxes as it is. Remember this the next time you get shot and have to go to the hospital… ";-/
Remember, emergency room visits are guaranteed by law not to turn you away if you need help. And if you cannot pay there are many government and private sources of help for that too. Or you can make payment arrangements. Where there’s a will, there’s a way. Here’s another thing: the majority of people who have no health-care choose not to have health care, for a variety of reasons. Lastly, I haven’t pissed anyone off badly enough (yet) to be worried about getting shot
) Rusty
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Remember this the next time you get shot and have to go to the hospital… ";-/ Remember, emergency room visits are guaranteed by law not to turn you away if you need help. And if you cannot pay there are many government and private sources of help for that too.
My God, that’s so socialist! What’s the USA coming to these days? Here’s another thing: the majority of people who have no health-care choose not to have health care, for a variety of reasons.
Like high cost? Dave
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Even if health care were privatized, our taxes would *need* to be higher than US taxes, simply because of the lower population density. Labelling it "a problem of socialism" is a narrow-minded and fallacious way of thinking. It is neither narrow-minded nor fallacious, it’s the truth. And if your
Please provide evidence — as I did — to justify your position. Otherwise, it’s both narrow-minded and fallacious. system is so great, explain why your people come here for health care when afforded the opportunity.
Because a socialized medical system means that everyone, regardless of their income, gets equal treatment. Those who can afford to can "jump the line" and seek private help elsewhere — in the US.
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It is neither narrow-minded nor fallacious, it’s the truth. And if your system is so great, explain why your people come here for health care when afforded the opportunity.
In fact, very few Canadians get health care in the US. Now, your turn to explain the busloads of Americans who drive up to Canada to buy medicine. Do you think that municipalities should provide treated drinking water for the whole town? Or should it be up to each individual to buy bottled water? The Canadian system provides a certain level of health care for everyone. The American system provides faster, not necessarily better, care for people who can pay for it – and much worse care for people who cannot. I’m sure you’d say the latter is better overall, but can you admit that not everyone sees it that way? Canadians overall pay less for health care, and *some* of the difference is that there are far fewer people involved in selling health insurance, generating bills for services, paying bills for services, and generally dealing with piles of paper. So more of what Canadians pay actually goes to providing services. Dave
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Well if you look at almost every other US government form you’ll notice three things on it that are missing on a US Customs form: 1) A prejury statement 2) A Privacy Act Statement 3) A Paperwork Reduction Act Statement 1) The document does not require you to affirm under penality of prejury. 2) and 3) These are required on all government forms in order to advise you as to how exactly the info you provide will be used, stored, and if the data is optional or what happens if it is ommitted. Personally I feel so sorry for the canadians that I mark down their value even if they don’t ask. About a year ago I stopped writing legibly on the tear off section that the USPS keeps. The clerks seem to look to see if something is written, but not its readable. http://personalinfomediary.com/privacyactof1974.htm 5 U.S.C.
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