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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – She wasn’t suspended, but her auctions were all cancelled except for one, which is confusing. I made an auction template for her so she could just cut and paste into her listing program, so all of the auctions were identical other than describing what the material pattern was. Nowhere did we mention a brand name in any of the auctions. It confused me that one auction didn’t get cancelled and the rest did, but I guess that is a mystery that only EBay will know the answer to. She has emailed them asking for a more specific reason as to what was wrong with the auctions, but hasn’t heard back yet. All the original notice said is that they were in violation of VERO with no more specifics. I guess we’ll have to wait and see what, if anything, is given for a reason. It’s not the end of the world if she doesn’t sell them on EBay and she obviously isn’t getting rich on them, it is just something she was doing as a goodwill gesture. Hi, just a guess, what was printed on the fabric? If it had *any* copyrighted character, like Barbie or Garfield or Coca-Cola, the owner of that copyright (and/or trademark) won’t like it. The licensing fee paid by the fabric company is for the fabric only, if you make it into a product, you will need to pay for a license to use the character in your product. I’m guessing that the one auction that wasn’t cancelled had some kind of solid-color fabric?? If other people are selling the neck coolers with copyrighted designs on them, it’s possible that they have paid for a license. HTH, good luck!
No wording on any of the material. I won’t reveal the user ID of the person who complained to VERO but his ID suggests that he sells a similar product.. He has zero feedback and no auctions listed, so I don’t quite understand if he signed up just to VERO user’s selling this product or not. The material patterns were either patriotic, handkerchief "bandana blue and red", or solid colors. Chris
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Can you post a link to your mother’s auctions? I’d love to, but they’re all removed.
Didn’t you say upthread that all but one had been cancelled? Post the link to that one. http://members.aol.com/kimmurphy/ Kimberly’s Barbie Collection: http://members.aol.com/kimmurphy/barbies.html
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – No wording on any of the material. I won’t reveal the user ID of the person who complained to VERO but his ID suggests that he sells a similar product.. He has zero feedback and no auctions listed, so I don’t quite understand if he signed up just to VERO user’s selling this product or not. The material patterns were either patriotic, handkerchief "bandana blue and red", or solid colors. Can you post a link to your mother’s auctions? http://members.aol.com/kimmurphy/ Kimberly’s Barbie Collection: http://members.aol.com/kimmurphy/barbies.html
I’d love to, but they’re all removed. Chris
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – She wasn’t suspended, but her auctions were all cancelled except for one, which is confusing. I made an auction template for her so she could just cut and paste into her listing program, so all of the auctions were identical other than describing what the material pattern was. Nowhere did we mention a brand name in any of the auctions. It confused me that one auction didn’t get cancelled and the rest did, but I guess that is a mystery that only EBay will know the answer to. She has emailed them asking for a more specific reason as to what was wrong with the auctions, but hasn’t heard back yet. All the original notice said is that they were in violation of VERO with no more specifics. I guess we’ll have to wait and see what, if anything, is given for a reason. It’s not the end of the world if she doesn’t sell them on EBay and she obviously isn’t getting rich on them, it is just something she was doing as a goodwill gesture. Hi, just a guess, what was printed on the fabric? If it had *any* copyrighted character, like Barbie or Garfield or Coca-Cola, the owner of that copyright (and/or trademark) won’t like it. The licensing fee paid by the fabric company is for the fabric only, if you make it into a product, you will need to pay for a license to use the character in your product. I’m guessing that the one auction that wasn’t cancelled had some kind of solid-color fabric?? If other people are selling the neck coolers with copyrighted designs on them, it’s possible that they have paid for a license. HTH, good luck! No wording on any of the material. I won’t reveal the user ID of the person who complained to VERO but his ID suggests that he sells a similar product.. He has zero feedback and no auctions listed, so I don’t quite understand if he signed up just to VERO user’s selling this product or not. The material patterns were either patriotic, handkerchief "bandana blue and red", or solid colors.
Oh darn, I guessed wrong. 
Ok, my guess for today is that the phrase "Neck Cooler" is a registered trademark. Like this: Word Mark NECK COOLER Goods and Services IC 025. US 022 039. G & S: Cloth Bandanas for Cooling Neck Area. FIRST USE: 19930701. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 19930701 Mark Drawing Code (1) TYPED DRAWING Serial Number 75802858 Filing Date September 20, 1999 Published for Opposition September 5, 2000 Registration Number 2408369 Registration Date November 28, 2000 Owner (REGISTRANT) Campbell, Earl D. S. INDIVIDUAL UNITED STATES 4617 Tumbleweed El Paso TEXAS 79924 Prior Registrations 1830942 Disclaimer NO CLAIM IS MADE TO THE EXCLUSIVE RIGHT TO USE "NECK" APART FROM THE MARK AS SHOWN Type of Mark TRADEMARK Register PRINCIPAL-2(F) Live/Dead Indicator LIVE http://www.uspto.gov/web/menu/search.html So perhaps if you avoid the phrase "neck cooler" you will be ok.
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This sort of behavior isnt new: In the Nazi days, lots of disgruntled losers carried little notebooks and wrote down all the anti-government stuff their neighbors said.
I invoke Godwin. — Ty Who is mostly just a slightly skewed Donna Reed This address is white-listed. Mail sent to it may bounce back to the sender.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – No wording on any of the material. I won’t reveal the user ID of the person who complained to VERO but his ID suggests that he sells a similar product.. He has zero feedback and no auctions listed, so I don’t quite understand if he signed up just to VERO user’s selling this product or not. The material patterns were either patriotic, handkerchief "bandana blue and red", or solid colors. Chris
From what little I understand about the VeRO program, the userID you are referring to would be the Verified Rights Owner (VeRO) i.e. the person upon whom your mom’s auctions are allegedly infringing. Try searching the web using the terms in the UserID. Most likely you will run across a company marketing neck coolers or maybe even the fabric. And they probably did register on eBay for the express purpose of defending their copyright or patent. There is a way to appeal the VeRO cancellations, but I don’t remember what the process is. I am sure that someone else here does.
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – She wasn’t suspended, but her auctions were all cancelled except for one, which is confusing. I made an auction template for her so she could just cut and paste into her listing program, so all of the auctions were identical other than describing what the material pattern was. Nowhere did we mention a brand name in any of the auctions. It confused me that one auction didn’t get cancelled and the rest did, but I guess that is a mystery that only EBay will know the answer to. She has emailed them asking for a more specific reason as to what was wrong with the auctions, but hasn’t heard back yet. All the original notice said is that they were in violation of VERO with no more specifics. I guess we’ll have to wait and see what, if anything, is given for a reason. It’s not the end of the world if she doesn’t sell them on EBay and she obviously isn’t getting rich on them, it is just something she was doing as a goodwill gesture. Hi, just a guess, what was printed on the fabric? If it had *any* copyrighted character, like Barbie or Garfield or Coca-Cola, the owner of that copyright (and/or trademark) won’t like it. The licensing fee paid by the fabric company is for the fabric only, if you make it into a product, you will need to pay for a license to use the character in your product. I’m guessing that the one auction that wasn’t cancelled had some kind of solid-color fabric?? If other people are selling the neck coolers with copyrighted designs on them, it’s possible that they have paid for a license. HTH, good luck! No wording on any of the material. I won’t reveal the user ID of the person who complained to VERO but his ID suggests that he sells a similar product.. He has zero feedback and no auctions listed, so I don’t quite understand if he signed up just to VERO user’s selling this product or not. The material patterns were either patriotic, handkerchief "bandana blue and red", or solid colors. Chris
Perhaps Microsoft or the MPAA has finally copyrighted the primary colors and the American flag.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m sure this has been explained before, but how does someone get VERO’d for selling an item when there are many others selling the same item? Weird thing is that the person who VERO’d her isn’t even selling any of the items, or anything else for that matter, and has only been a member for about 2 months. They also have no feedback so possibly they haven’t sold anything. The other weird thing is that they took all but one of her auctions down and they all had the same title, other than describing a material pattern. What she is selling is commonly referred to as a neck cooler or a cool tie. Her and my aunt make these and send them to the U.S. troops for a charity group that my aunt is a member of. She was using a percentage of her sales money to purchase material to make more of these neck coolers to send to the troops. I looked around a bit to get a little more information about these things and there are quite a few websites saying that they manufacture these, so I’m not sure if there is a patent or anything on them. I see them marketed under at least 6 different names, none of which she mentioned in any of her ads. There are also places to buy patterns to make these, which is what the charity group did. Here are my questions: Why did they cancel one person’s ads and not all of them? Since she would like to continue to sell these, is there any way to continue to do so? She obviously doesn’t want to get suspended, but enjoys making and selling these. Any help is appreciated. Chris You get VERO’d for stealing intellectual property. It does not matter in the least how many others are doing the same thing. Tell your Mom to stop stealing intellectual property.
Why not just tell you mom the truth? Millions of people use ebay. It stands to reason that a small but vocal percentage of them are nut cases. Some are desperately looking for something to be in charge of. Some of these people were bullied in school, some are in situations where no one listens to them. Some are handicapped and "mad at the world’. Some are wanna-be cops. All have found the perfect outlet for their particular madness; they search ebay for people to report. This sort of behavior isnt new: In the Nazi days, lots of disgruntled losers carried little notebooks and wrote down all the anti-government stuff their neighbors said. The East Germans, Bulgarians, Rumanians and others had their informers too. They were the first ones against the wall when the revolution came. In America these toadies can cruise ebay and have half a dozen innocent people hurt before breakfast. Some, as you see, dont even sell or bid, they just look for people to report. Pity them. When Jimmie Hoffa came across such a person he used to say "Leave him alone. Cant you see he’s sick?"
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She will never get any customer service through email only auto reply. If she feels like hanging on the phone for 3 hours she might get a human to talk to but the will almost assuredly be of no help. If you me to list here auction for her I will using one of my many fake sellers account.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – She obviously doesn’t want to get suspended, but enjoys making and selling these. Any help is appreciated. Without more specifics it’s hard to say, but based on my understanding of VERO, she may have been suspended because she was using a trade name in her auction title or description. E.g. she’s making neck coolers in the style of SuperFashion brand neck coolers, and her auctions are listed as "handmade SuperFashion style neck coolers." Either that, or the design itself is patented by someone, and she didn’t get permission from the owner of the design to sell it. Or it might be something else entirely. Has ebay sent her a notice telling her what the problem was? -Bertha — She wasn’t suspended, but her auctions were all cancelled except for one, which is confusing. I made an auction template for her so she could just cut and paste into her listing program, so all of the auctions were identical other than describing what the material pattern was. Nowhere did we mention a brand name in any of the auctions. It confused me that one auction didn’t get cancelled and the rest did, but I guess that is a mystery that only EBay will know the answer to. She has emailed them asking for a more specific reason as to what was wrong with the auctions, but hasn’t heard back yet. All the original notice said is that they were in violation of VERO with no more specifics. I guess we’ll have to wait and see what, if anything, is given for a reason. It’s not the end of the world if she doesn’t sell them on EBay and she obviously isn’t getting rich on them, it is just something she was doing as a goodwill gesture. Chris
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Would Steve Goodman concede that "My Mom Got VERO’d" is *the* perfect country & western song? Sure, if he was still alive. As it is, you’ll have to dig under home plate at Wrigley to find out. Michele
Ah, but his "songwriters ghost in a jar" could write the song and either Arlo Guthrie or Willie Nelson could record it (the only 2 people I can think of off the top of my head that had a hit with one of his songs.) Carol
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No wording on any of the material. I won’t reveal the user ID of the person who complained to VERO but his ID suggests that he sells a similar product.. He has zero feedback and no auctions listed, so I don’t quite understand if he signed up just to VERO user’s selling this product or not. The material patterns were either patriotic, handkerchief "bandana blue and red", or solid colors.
Can you post a link to your mother’s auctions? http://members.aol.com/kimmurphy/ Kimberly’s Barbie Collection: http://members.aol.com/kimmurphy/barbies.html
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She wasn’t suspended, but her auctions were all cancelled except for one, which is confusing. I made an auction template for her so she could just cut and paste into her listing program, so all of the auctions were identical other than describing what the material pattern was. Nowhere did we mention a brand name in any of the auctions. It confused me that one auction didn’t get cancelled and the rest did, but I guess that is a mystery that only EBay will know the answer to. She has emailed them asking for a more specific reason as to what was wrong with the auctions, but hasn’t heard back yet. All the original notice said is that they were in violation of VERO with no more specifics. I guess we’ll have to wait and see what, if anything, is given for a reason. It’s not the end of the world if she doesn’t sell them on EBay and she obviously isn’t getting rich on them, it is just something she was doing as a goodwill gesture.
Hi, just a guess, what was printed on the fabric? If it had *any* copyrighted character, like Barbie or Garfield or Coca-Cola, the owner of that copyright (and/or trademark) won’t like it. The licensing fee paid by the fabric company is for the fabric only, if you make it into a product, you will need to pay for a license to use the character in your product. I’m guessing that the one auction that wasn’t cancelled had some kind of solid-color fabric?? If other people are selling the neck coolers with copyrighted designs on them, it’s possible that they have paid for a license. HTH, good luck!
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Would Steve Goodman concede that "My Mom Got VERO’d" is *the* perfect country & western song?
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She obviously doesn’t want to get suspended, but enjoys making and selling these. Any help is appreciated.
Without more specifics it’s hard to say, but based on my understanding of VERO, she may have been suspended because she was using a trade name in her auction title or description. E.g. she’s making neck coolers in the style of SuperFashion brand neck coolers, and her auctions are listed as "handmade SuperFashion style neck coolers." Either that, or the design itself is patented by someone, and she didn’t get permission from the owner of the design to sell it. Or it might be something else entirely. Has ebay sent her a notice telling her what the problem was? -Bertha — "Is there a word in the English language," posted someone, "longer than Pneumonaultramicroscopicsilicovalcanoconiosis?" "Pneumonaultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosisly. Here it is in a sentence: See Spot run. Run Spot run. See Spot inhale very fine silica dust and expire pneumonaultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosisly."
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Would Steve Goodman concede that "My Mom Got VERO’d" is *the* perfect country & western song?
Sure, if he was still alive. As it is, you’ll have to dig under home plate at Wrigley to find out. Michele —-== Posted via Newsfeed.Com – Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==—- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups —= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers – Total Privacy via Encryption =—
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – She obviously doesn’t want to get suspended, but enjoys making and selling these. Any help is appreciated. Without more specifics it’s hard to say, but based on my understanding of VERO, she may have been suspended because she was using a trade name in her auction title or description. E.g. she’s making neck coolers in the style of SuperFashion brand neck coolers, and her auctions are listed as "handmade SuperFashion style neck coolers." Either that, or the design itself is patented by someone, and she didn’t get permission from the owner of the design to sell it. Or it might be something else entirely. Has ebay sent her a notice telling her what the problem was? -Bertha —
She wasn’t suspended, but her auctions were all cancelled except for one, which is confusing. I made an auction template for her so she could just cut and paste into her listing program, so all of the auctions were identical other than describing what the material pattern was. Nowhere did we mention a brand name in any of the auctions. It confused me that one auction didn’t get cancelled and the rest did, but I guess that is a mystery that only EBay will know the answer to. She has emailed them asking for a more specific reason as to what was wrong with the auctions, but hasn’t heard back yet. All the original notice said is that they were in violation of VERO with no more specifics. I guess we’ll have to wait and see what, if anything, is given for a reason. It’s not the end of the world if she doesn’t sell them on EBay and she obviously isn’t getting rich on them, it is just something she was doing as a goodwill gesture. Chris
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m sure this has been explained before, but how does someone get VERO’d for selling an item when there are many others selling the same item? Weird thing is that the person who VERO’d her isn’t even selling any of the items, or anything else for that matter, and has only been a member for about 2 months. They also have no feedback so possibly they haven’t sold anything. The other weird thing is that they took all but one of her auctions down and they all had the same title, other than describing a material pattern. What she is selling is commonly referred to as a neck cooler or a cool tie. Her and my aunt make these and send them to the U.S. troops for a charity group that my aunt is a member of. She was using a percentage of her sales money to purchase material to make more of these neck coolers to send to the troops. I looked around a bit to get a little more information about these things and there are quite a few websites saying that they manufacture these, so I’m not sure if there is a patent or anything on them. I see them marketed under at least 6 different names, none of which she mentioned in any of her ads. There are also places to buy patterns to make these, which is what the charity group did. Here are my questions: Why did they cancel one person’s ads and not all of them? Since she would like to continue to sell these, is there any way to continue to do so? She obviously doesn’t want to get suspended, but enjoys making and selling these. Any help is appreciated. Chris You get VERO’d for stealing intellectual property. It does not matter in the least how many others are doing the same thing. Tell your Mom to stop stealing intellectual property. Don Lancaster Exactly what did she steal??? and my second question is, do you ever post anything useful?
Not from what I’ve seen. Yannow, Don, among other things, not -everyone- worries about buy/sell ratios. Some just want to clean out their attics/closets/etc and get whatever money they can. BTW, c, lovely idea your mom has. — "By the way, if one day you happen to wake up and find yourself in an existential quandary full of loathing and self doubt and racked with the pain and isolation of your pitiful meaningless existence, at least you can take a small bit of comfort in knowing that somewhere out there in this crazy old mixed up universe of ours there’s still a little place called…Albuquerque!" –Weird Al Yankovic, "Albuquerque" Visit my ebay page http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/raystantz
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I’m sure this has been explained before, but how does someone get VERO’d for selling an item when there are many others selling the same item? Weird thing is that the person who VERO’d her isn’t even selling any of the items, or anything else for that matter, and has only been a member for about 2 months. They also have no feedback so possibly they haven’t sold anything. The other weird thing is that they took all but one of her auctions down and they all had the same title, other than describing a material pattern. What she is selling is commonly referred to as a neck cooler or a cool tie. Her and my aunt make these and send them to the U.S. troops for a charity group that my aunt is a member of. She was using a percentage of her sales money to purchase material to make more of these neck coolers to send to the troops. I looked around a bit to get a little more information about these things and there are quite a few websites saying that they manufacture these, so I’m not sure if there is a patent or anything on them. I see them marketed under at least 6 different names, none of which she mentioned in any of her ads. There are also places to buy patterns to make these, which is what the charity group did. Here are my questions: Why did they cancel one person’s ads and not all of them? Since she would like to continue to sell these, is there any way to continue to do so? She obviously doesn’t want to get suspended, but enjoys making and selling these. Any help is appreciated. Chris
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m sure this has been explained before, but how does someone get VERO’d for selling an item when there are many others selling the same item? Weird thing is that the person who VERO’d her isn’t even selling any of the items, or anything else for that matter, and has only been a member for about 2 months. They also have no feedback so possibly they haven’t sold anything. The other weird thing is that they took all but one of her auctions down and they all had the same title, other than describing a material pattern. What she is selling is commonly referred to as a neck cooler or a cool tie. Her and my aunt make these and send them to the U.S. troops for a charity group that my aunt is a member of. She was using a percentage of her sales money to purchase material to make more of these neck coolers to send to the troops. I looked around a bit to get a little more information about these things and there are quite a few websites saying that they manufacture these, so I’m not sure if there is a patent or anything on them. I see them marketed under at least 6 different names, none of which she mentioned in any of her ads. There are also places to buy patterns to make these, which is what the charity group did. Here are my questions: Why did they cancel one person’s ads and not all of them? Since she would like to continue to sell these, is there any way to continue to do so? She obviously doesn’t want to get suspended, but enjoys making and selling these. Any help is appreciated. Chris You get VERO’d for stealing intellectual property. It does not matter in the least how many others are doing the same thing. Tell your Mom to stop stealing intellectual property. — Many thanks, Don Lancaster Synergetics 3860 West First Street Box 809 Thatcher, AZ 85552 Please visit my GURU’s LAIR web site at http://www.tinaja.com Exactly what did she steal??? and my second question is, do you ever post anything useful? Chris do you ever post anything useful?
Thought I was the only one who noticed. Didn’t like to say anything.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m sure this has been explained before, but how does someone get VERO’d for selling an item when there are many others selling the same item? Weird thing is that the person who VERO’d her isn’t even selling any of the items, or anything else for that matter, and has only been a member for about 2 months. They also have no feedback so possibly they haven’t sold anything. The other weird thing is that they took all but one of her auctions down and they all had the same title, other than describing a material pattern. What she is selling is commonly referred to as a neck cooler or a cool tie. Her and my aunt make these and send them to the U.S. troops for a charity group that my aunt is a member of. She was using a percentage of her sales money to purchase material to make more of these neck coolers to send to the troops. I looked around a bit to get a little more information about these things and there are quite a few websites saying that they manufacture these, so I’m not sure if there is a patent or anything on them. I see them marketed under at least 6 different names, none of which she mentioned in any of her ads. There are also places to buy patterns to make these, which is what the charity group did. Here are my questions: Why did they cancel one person’s ads and not all of them? Since she would like to continue to sell these, is there any way to continue to do so? She obviously doesn’t want to get suspended, but enjoys making and selling these. Any help is appreciated. Chris You get VERO’d for stealing intellectual property. It does not matter in the least how many others are doing the same thing. Tell your Mom to stop stealing intellectual property. — Many thanks, Don Lancaster Synergetics 3860 West First Street Box 809 Thatcher, AZ 85552 Please visit my GURU’s LAIR web site at http://www.tinaja.com
Exactly what did she steal??? and my second question is, do you ever post anything useful? Chris
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m sure this has been explained before, but how does someone get VERO’d for selling an item when there are many others selling the same item? Weird thing is that the person who VERO’d her isn’t even selling any of the items, or anything else for that matter, and has only been a member for about 2 months. They also have no feedback so possibly they haven’t sold anything. The other weird thing is that they took all but one of her auctions down and they all had the same title, other than describing a material pattern. What she is selling is commonly referred to as a neck cooler or a cool tie. Her and my aunt make these and send them to the U.S. troops for a charity group that my aunt is a member of. She was using a percentage of her sales money to purchase material to make more of these neck coolers to send to the troops. I looked around a bit to get a little more information about these things and there are quite a few websites saying that they manufacture these, so I’m not sure if there is a patent or anything on them. I see them marketed under at least 6 different names, none of which she mentioned in any of her ads. There are also places to buy patterns to make these, which is what the charity group did. Here are my questions: Why did they cancel one person’s ads and not all of them? Since she would like to continue to sell these, is there any way to continue to do so? She obviously doesn’t want to get suspended, but enjoys making and selling these. Any help is appreciated. Chris
You get VERO’d for stealing intellectual property. It does not matter in the least how many others are doing the same thing. Tell your Mom to stop stealing intellectual property. — Many thanks, Don Lancaster Synergetics 3860 West First Street Box 809 Thatcher, AZ 85552 Please visit my GURU’s LAIR web site at http://www.tinaja.com
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