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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – — <Please remove the spam protection if emailing me through newsgroups — <Please remove the spam protection if emailing me through newsgroups I just wanna know if I’ll have to go through this crap everytime I list something now. the answer may be more complicated than we like to think. What is it about the word ‘borderline’ that you find so hard to take? well, don’t sound so sure of your self sir. last you wrote on this, you said it may be filters or it may not. in case where this is humans checking the listings, the word borderline becomes personal judgement, which can go either way, regardless of what I write in the descriptions. Can you not read your own text and get a *clue* as to what might be triggering ebay? I Can obviously read, even my own text, but I unfortunately cannot get the clues. Post the listing text, numpty. okay, next time they end something of mine, you’ll have it here for review.
No, we won’t, unless you save the listing in Turbo Lister or something similar. You won’t be able to copy the listing if it’s killed. If you have your listings saved somewhere, then you can post one of them now.
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First off, you *do* realize that by your unconventional posting style (leading with your .sig instead of it being at the end of a post where it belongs), you’re screwing everyone who wants to reply to your posts (everything below the 2 dashes at the top of your post is treated as .sig file text to be automatically removed from follow ups)?
wow! you know what..someone actually got on my case just like you recently and I had no clue what he was talking about! I do not hear a lot about this because I assume most people do use OE. I don’t use OE so don’t know the fix myself, but I remember someone in here posting a link to an add-on that corrects Microsoft’s incompetence and puts .sigs in the correct place in response to someone who posted the same way that you are now.
well, we’ll look into it. sorry for your troubles. okay, next time they end something of mine, you’ll have it here for review. but lets hope they have indeed attached a note to my account saying to never cancel any of this guy’s listing no matter how offensive they are. Since this listing was temporarily cancelled, post a follow up after it ends (so jerks can’t report it while it’s open and possibly have it cancelled again) so that people here can look at it? Bill
yes, but like I said, my listing was not cancelled through some "jerk’s report". it was cancelled by ebay before its scheduled start time. the question that we are contemplating here, if you’d like to join in, is whether such listings are cancelled by humans or automated filters. I think its for former. but I am not always right. what do you think?
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now, I did mess up a few times in the past, had couple my listings ended and even got meself a 30 suspension but hell… <crap snapped
okay as predicted, here is the answer they gave us today… so go figure if they have filters or humans doing the job.. now they even relisted the ended listing for me, something I suppose they normally don’t do..but what would you not do to suck up to a bronze level super powerseller like myself. I pay them an average of $100 in monthly fees! this is more than I spend on my food each month. ha! quote: Thank you again for taking the time to bring this to our attention. My name is BLABLABLA and I appreciate the chance to again review your recently ended listing. Upon review, I am able to verify that you are correct. This item looks to have been ended mistakenly. I sincerely apologize for this error and inconvenience. I am happy to inform you that I have reinstated this listing, and you will be receiving another email shortly with detailed instructions on how to restart your auction. We apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused. Please be assured that your eBay privileges have not been jeopardized, and you may continue to use the site as you normally would. Also, thank you for sharing your suggestion with me. I’ll be sure to address your concern as well as place a note on your account referencing the error that was made. Again my apologies, END OF QUOTE. I just wanna know if I’ll have to go through this crap everytime I list something now. the answer may be more complicated than we like to think.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – — <Please remove the spam protection if emailing me through newsgroups — <Please remove the spam protection if emailing me through newsgroups I just wanna know if I’ll have to go through this crap everytime I list something now. the answer may be more complicated than we like to think. What is it about the word ‘borderline’ that you find so hard to take? well, don’t sound so sure of your self sir. last you wrote on this, you said it may be filters or it may not. in case where this is humans checking the listings, the word borderline becomes personal judgement, which can go either way, regardless of what I write in the descriptions. Can you not read your own text and get a *clue* as to what might be triggering ebay? I Can obviously read, even my own text, but I unfortunately cannot get the clues. Post the listing text, numpty. okay, next time they end something of mine, you’ll have it here for review. No, we won’t, unless you save the listing in Turbo Lister or something similar. You won’t be able to copy the listing if it’s killed. If you have your listings saved somewhere, then you can post one of them now.
I do not have it saved, no. but so that this can work in the future, I will save any similar listing that I will post in the future, and then copy it here for your grandiose verifications. Sirs. again, I hope there is a note on my account saying "this guy’s listings have been cancelled by error twice. do not cancel anything again without his agreeing to it, or else we [ebay] risk being suspended following a third offence against the venerable mr tiktak". or something like this
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – — <Please remove the spam protection if emailing me through newsgroups "tiktak" wrote… I’ll see what they reply, but come on.. wtf is going on… who checks these listings? again, this is NOT a case where a listing was reported by a mmeber, it was their check team that found it (by mistake) as worthy of removal. so… if your wondering whats my point here… I’m just sort of trying to figure out what action I can take or what to say so this does not happen again and I do not have to waste my time on it and ebays. Think about it. They still have the same security device they had last time – and they’ll still have it next time. It’s automatic. What you need to do is work out how your innocent listing triggered a filter, do a little bit of rewording, and you are home and dry. Keep thinking about it – ebay needs these filters; if they manually read every listing, listings would cost 5x as much. Filters ain’t perfect. Somtihing in your listing crossed the line. YOU read your listing and find out what, or it’ll happen again. And again. And again. Good Luck. wow! what a marvellous point of view and dose of fresh insight, thank you. you may have just saved my ebay career heh. I must be dumb as a bush!
That’s "MISTER Bush" with a capital "B" to you foreigners! now the real question is… why did *I* not think of it.. this could be disturbing for my brain.
Its preferred state, no?
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – — <Please remove the spam protection if emailing me through newsgroups I just wanna know if I’ll have to go through this crap everytime I list something now. the answer may be more complicated than we like to think. What is it about the word ‘borderline’ that you find so hard to take? well, don’t sound so sure of your self sir. last you wrote on this, you said it may be filters or it may not. in case where this is humans checking the listings, the word borderline becomes personal judgement, which can go either way, regardless of what I write in the descriptions. Can you not read your own text and get a *clue* as to what might be triggering ebay? I Can obviously read, even my own text, but I unfortunately cannot get the clues. Post the listing text, numpty.
okay, next time they end something of mine, you’ll have it here for review. but lets hope they have indeed attached a note to my account saying to never cancel any of this guy’s listing no matter how offensive they are.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – — <Please remove the spam protection if emailing me through newsgroups I just wanna know if I’ll have to go through this crap everytime I list something now. the answer may be more complicated than we like to think. What is it about the word ‘borderline’ that you find so hard to take? well, don’t sound so sure of your self sir. last you wrote on this, you said it may be filters or it may not. in case where this is humans checking the listings, the word borderline becomes personal judgement, which can go either way, regardless of what I write in the descriptions. Can you not read your own text and get a *clue* as to what might be triggering ebay? I Can obviously read, even my own text, but I unfortunately cannot get the clues.
Post the listing text, numpty.
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I just wanna know if I’ll have to go through this crap everytime I list something now. the answer may be more complicated than we like to think. What is it about the word ‘borderline’ that you find so hard to take?
well, don’t sound so sure of your self sir. last you wrote on this, you said it may be filters or it may not. in case where this is humans checking the listings, the word borderline becomes personal judgement, which can go either way, regardless of what I write in the descriptions. Can you not read your own text and get a *clue* as to what might be triggering ebay?
I Can obviously read, even my own text, but I unfortunately cannot get the clues.
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I just wanna know if I’ll have to go through this crap everytime I list something now. the answer may be more complicated than we like to think. What is it about the word ‘borderline’ that you find so hard to take?
It often precedes "schizophrenia," one of tiktak’s least favorite sounds.
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I just wanna know if I’ll have to go through this crap everytime I list something now. the answer may be more complicated than we like to think.
What is it about the word ‘borderline’ that you find so hard to take? Can you not read your own text and get a *clue* as to what might be triggering ebay? Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone; no need to complicate anything. — Andrew http://www.weirdity.com/ebay/
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okay as predicted, here is the answer they gave us today… so go figure if they have filters or humans doing the job.. now they even relisted the ended listing for me, something I suppose they normally don’t do..but what would you not do to suck up to a bronze level super powerseller like myself. I pay them an average of $100 in monthly fees! this is more than I spend on my food each month. ha!
Mushrooms are cheap up there, eh? Damn, I did it again! 
I just wanna know if I’ll have to go through this crap everytime I list something now. the answer may be more complicated than we like to think.
What’s complicated about "yes?"
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"tiktak" wrote … p.s. I’ll be honest with you, I use similar if not SAME descriptions for these items, and NOT all of them get cancelled. what would be your explanation for this o all knowing one. thanks again.
"similar if not SAME " – just different enough, maybe? What about titles? — Andrew http://www.weirdity/ebay/
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"tiktak" wrote … p.s. I’ll be honest with you, I use similar if not SAME descriptions for these items, and NOT all of them get cancelled. what would be your explanation for this o all knowing one. thanks again. "similar if not SAME " – just different enough, maybe? What about titles? — Andrew http://www.weirdity/ebay/
hmmmm..even the titles are a word of two different, and none of these words are actually offensive.. could it be the filters are not perfect and catch only some? or perhaps it really is a human checking them?
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – — <Please remove the spam protection if emailing me through newsgroups "tiktak" wrote … p.s. I’ll be honest with you, I use similar if not SAME descriptions for these items, and NOT all of them get cancelled. what would be your explanation for this o all knowing one. thanks again. "similar if not SAME " – just different enough, maybe? What about titles? — Andrew http://www.weirdity/ebay/ hmmmm..even the titles are a word of two different, and none of these words are actually offensive.. could it be the filters are not perfect and catch only some? or perhaps it really is a human checking them?
Can’t help ya without an auction number, numpty!
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Mr. tiktak, You are in clear violation of the charter of the ‘alt.marketing.online.ebay’ newsgroup. Specifically, Subsection 3c, Paragraph 6, which clearly states- "At no time shall a user post if his or her IQ is not verified to be above 50 points on the International Intelligence Quotient scale." Yours is a clear violation of this rule, so you must cease and desist posting until such time in the future that you’ve gained enough intelligent insight to be re-tested and verified as a marginally intelligent human being. Unless and until you are able to obtain "marginally intelligent human being" status, you may post on the groups ‘alt.stupidpeople.foodfight’, ‘rec.shinythings.oooooo’, or ‘alt.iamdumberthanyourdog.andcat’. Sincerely, The Central Scrutinizer
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – now, I did mess up a few times in the past, had couple my listings ended and even got meself a 30 suspension but hell… I listed something a month ago, 2 hours before scheduled start time, ebay writes email saying listing was cancelled.. so I "appeal"… they write back saying we apologize it was a mistake. offence removed from record blablal. now today, same thing happened… 4 hours before start time, listing is gone. I appealed a moment ago, and I VERY STRONGLY suspect they will say it was a mistake again.. I mean, I may be stupid but not that stupid… I was suspended I learned my lesson.. I will never relist something without thinking about what it is 10 times. so anyway… I wrote my appeal and in it I quoted the previous item they admitted to cancelling by error. and I said.. as nicely as I could.. look.. this is the 2nd time your wasting my time..and yours, cancelling things by error. I’ll see what they reply, but come on.. wtf is going on… who checks these listings? again, this is NOT a case where a listing was reported by a mmeber, it was their check team that found it (by mistake) as worthy of removal. so… if your wondering whats my point here… I’m just sort of trying to figure out what action I can take or what to say so this does not happen again and I do not have to waste my time on it and ebays. any one? thanks — <Please remove the spam protection if emailing me through newsgroups
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Mr. tiktak, You are in clear violation of the charter of the ‘alt.marketing.online.ebay’ newsgroup. Specifically, Subsection 3c, Paragraph 6, which clearly states- "At no time shall a user post if his or her IQ is not verified to be above 50 points on the International Intelligence Quotient scale." Yours is a clear violation of this rule, so you must cease and desist posting until such time in the future that you’ve gained enough intelligent insight to be re-tested and verified as a marginally intelligent human being. Unless and until you are able to obtain "marginally intelligent human being" status, you may post on the groups ‘alt.stupidpeople.foodfight’, ‘rec.shinythings.oooooo’, or ‘alt.iamdumberthanyourdog.andcat’. Sincerely, The Central Scrutinizer now, I did mess up a few times in the past, had couple my listings ended and even got meself a 30 suspension but hell… I listed something a month ago, 2 hours before scheduled start time, ebay writes email saying listing was cancelled.. so I "appeal"… they write back saying we apologize it was a mistake. offence removed from record blablal. now today, same thing happened… 4 hours before start time, listing is gone. I appealed a moment ago, and I VERY STRONGLY suspect they will say it was a mistake again.. I mean, I may be stupid but not that stupid… I was suspended I learned my lesson.. I will never relist something without thinking about what it is 10 times. so anyway… I wrote my appeal and in it I quoted the previous item they admitted to cancelling by error. and I said.. as nicely as I could.. look.. this is the 2nd time your wasting my time..and yours, cancelling things by error. I’ll see what they reply, but come on.. wtf is going on… who checks these listings? again, this is NOT a case where a listing was reported by a mmeber, it was their check team that found it (by mistake) as worthy of removal. so… if your wondering whats my point here… I’m just sort of trying to figure out what action I can take or what to say so this does not happen again and I do not have to waste my time on it and ebays. any one? thanks
okay mr bartfartalot… point well taken into consideration by us…. now stop top posting, many people do not like it here.
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… if you hit end of shift, you’re more likely to get through …
I’ve looked all over and can’t find the end of shift key. Is it next to the any key? Craig
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Andrew http://www.weirdity/ebay/ Maybe you meant this one, http://www.weirdity.com/ebay/
Sure did – must fix that siggy … Thanks! — Andrew http://www.weirdity.com/ebay/
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"tiktak" wrote … hmmmm..even the titles are a word of two different, and none of these words are actually offensive.. could it be the filters are not perfect and catch only some? or perhaps it really is a human checking them?
I’m sure the filters aren’t perfect, but I doubt a human looks at them all. It may be that borderline cases are flagged up and manually looked at – so if you hit end of shift, you’re more likely to get through … I’m guessing, of course, but it could very easily be something like that. cheers, — Andrew http://www.weirdity.com/ebay/
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – "tiktak" wrote … p.s. I’ll be honest with you, I use similar if not SAME descriptions for these items, and NOT all of them get cancelled. what would be your explanation for this o all knowing one. thanks again. "similar if not SAME " – just different enough, maybe? What about titles? — Andrew http://www.weirdity/ebay/ URL not available, what did you mean to send?
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"tiktak" wrote … p.s. I’ll be honest with you, I use similar if not SAME descriptions for these items, and NOT all of them get cancelled. what would be your explanation for this o all knowing one. thanks again. "similar if not SAME " – just different enough, maybe? What about titles? — Andrew http://www.weirdity/ebay/
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so anyway… I wrote my appeal and in it I quoted the previous item they admitted to cancelling by error. and I said.. as nicely as I could.. look.. this is the 2nd time your wasting my time..and yours, cancelling things by error. I’ll see what they reply, but come on.. wtf is going on… who checks these listings?
Different people, obviously. I’m just sort of trying to figure out what action I can take or what to say so this does not happen again and I do not have to waste my time on it and ebays.
Add a great big notice to the top of your listing: HEY, eBAY COPS! THIS LISTING HAS BEEN REVIEWED TWICE AND APPROVED BY <COP’S NAME! REFERENCE <CASE # AND DO NOT CANCEL! Or, I’ve seen this one done to apparently good effect: IF ANOTHER EBAY GOON TAKES DOWN THIS AUCTION, I WILL SUE YOUR ASS FROM HERE TO CHINA!
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"tiktak" wrote… I’ll see what they reply, but come on.. wtf is going on… who checks these listings? again, this is NOT a case where a listing was reported by a mmeber, it was their check team that found it (by mistake) as worthy of removal. so… if your wondering whats my point here… I’m just sort of trying to figure out what action I can take or what to say so this does not happen again and I do not have to waste my time on it and ebays.
Think about it. They still have the same security device they had last time – and they’ll still have it next time. It’s automatic. What you need to do is work out how your innocent listing triggered a filter, do a little bit of rewording, and you are home and dry. Keep thinking about it – ebay needs these filters; if they manually read every listing, listings would cost 5x as much. Filters ain’t perfect. Somtihing in your listing crossed the line. YOU read your listing and find out what, or it’ll happen again. And again. And again. Good Luck. — Andrew http://www.weirdity/ebay/
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – "tiktak" wrote… I’ll see what they reply, but come on.. wtf is going on… who checks these listings? again, this is NOT a case where a listing was reported by a mmeber, it was their check team that found it (by mistake) as worthy of removal. so… if your wondering whats my point here… I’m just sort of trying to figure out what action I can take or what to say so this does not happen again and I do not have to waste my time on it and ebays. Think about it. They still have the same security device they had last time – and they’ll still have it next time. It’s automatic. What you need to do is work out how your innocent listing triggered a filter, do a little bit of rewording, and you are home and dry. Keep thinking about it – ebay needs these filters; if they manually read every listing, listings would cost 5x as much. Filters ain’t perfect. Somtihing in your listing crossed the line. YOU read your listing and find out what, or it’ll happen again. And again. And again. Good Luck.
wow! what a marvellous point of view and dose of fresh insight, thank you. you may have just saved my ebay career heh. I must be dumb as a bush! and to think that if this kept going, I would have ended up PERHAPS with a permanent suspension becuase of a FILTER! amazing! amazing… or best scenerio, I’d keep appealing and appealing and relisting and relisting for a long time… wasting my precious time! nothing to say but a big thank you. now the real question is… why did *I* not think of it.. this could be disturbing for my brain. regards p.s. I’ll be honest with you, I use similar if not SAME descriptions for these items, and NOT all of them get cancelled. what would be your explanation for this o all knowing one. thanks again.
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now, I did mess up a few times in the past, had couple my listings ended and even got meself a 30 suspension but hell… I listed something a month ago, 2 hours before scheduled start time, ebay writes email saying listing was cancelled.. so I "appeal"… they write back saying we apologize it was a mistake. offence removed from record blablal. now today, same thing happened… 4 hours before start time, listing is gone. I appealed a moment ago, and I VERY STRONGLY suspect they will say it was a mistake again.. I mean, I may be stupid but not that stupid… I was suspended I learned my lesson.. I will never relist something without thinking about what it is 10 times. so anyway… I wrote my appeal and in it I quoted the previous item they admitted to cancelling by error. and I said.. as nicely as I could.. look.. this is the 2nd time your wasting my time..and yours, cancelling things by error. I’ll see what they reply, but come on.. wtf is going on… who checks these listings? again, this is NOT a case where a listing was reported by a mmeber, it was their check team that found it (by mistake) as worthy of removal. so… if your wondering whats my point here… I’m just sort of trying to figure out what action I can take or what to say so this does not happen again and I do not have to waste my time on it and ebays. any one? thanks — <Please remove the spam protection if emailing me through newsgroups
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