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PayPal – Anybody else?

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Well, there’s BillPoint. They take international credit card payments too. I use both PayPal and BillPoint and have never had the first bit of trouble with either. MB

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Is there another company offering the same thing (CC transactions NOT MO’s) to international customers? PayPal is getting beyond a joke. Maybe in a few years it will be good, but they are trying to run before then can walk. Lets see if they land flat on their face!!! Ian

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Not sure if exchangepath is international yet or not. Don’t look now, but I think ExchangePath is going down for the count. Log on to your ExchangePath account and click on "Send Money".

Works for me. — If you’re interested in discussing possible creation of a new online auction newsgroup, please see the thread entitled "RFD: misc.business. online-auctions.discuss", currently posted in news.groups. Thank you! It also appears in RCC and alt.marketing.online.ebay

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" I use both PayPal and BillPoint and have never had the first bit of trouble with either."

You either don’t do much sales with them or lie :) Where is Scott for a good Paypal story? — David Saad Muzo Mine Emerald Co. Click here to search our auctions: http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/davesaad/

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Well, there’s BillPoint. They take international credit card payments too. I use both PayPal and BillPoint and have never had the first bit of trouble with either. MB Is there another company offering the same thing (CC transactions NOT MO’s) to international customers? PayPal is getting beyond a joke. Maybe in a few years it will be good, but they are trying to run before then can walk. Lets see if they land flat on their face!!! Ian

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says… " I use both PayPal and BillPoint and have never had the first bit of trouble with either." You either don’t do much sales with them or lie :) Where is Scott for a good Paypal story?

I just recently started using BillPoint, but I haven’t had any problems with either BillPoint or Paypal.  I’ll admit to being only a part-timer (currently closing in on the Purple Star) but I’ve had hundreds of Paypal payments without incident – only problems have been traced to people who mistype something when trying to make a payment.

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I like Billpoint too, they’re just as good as Paypal…. but you can only use them for ebay transactions. It would seem that expanding their service to cover any transaction would be a smart move.

They’ve done so.   You can now send/receive for any reason, not just an eBay transaction. Kris

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Well, there’s BillPoint. They take international credit card payments too. I use both PayPal and BillPoint and have never had the first bit of trouble with either. I like Billpoint too, they’re just as good as Paypal…. but you can only use them for ebay transactions. It would seem that expanding their service to cover any transaction would be a smart move.

They already have.  You can select either "eBay auction" or "general" when you send an invoice. GK

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I don’t like them quite as well as paypal, because I have to go and send the customer a BillPoint invoice.  If they let the customer just take the information from the end of auction notice you send them, and enter the auction information themselves, like paypal does, it would make them a whole lot easier to use. Richard Ward – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Well, there’s BillPoint. They take international credit card payments too. I use both PayPal and BillPoint and have never had the first bit of trouble with either. I like Billpoint too, they’re just as good as Paypal…. but you can only use them for ebay transactions. It would seem that expanding their service to cover any transaction would be a smart move. http://www.aboutpdx.com http://www.funinportland.com

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I don’t like them quite as well as paypal, because I have to go and send the customer a BillPoint invoice.  If they let the customer just take the information from the end of auction notice you send them, and enter the auction information themselves, like paypal does, it would make them a whole lot easier to use.

This was one of the reasons I didn’t sign up with Billpoint earlier.  Now that I’m using it, I’ve come to regard the invoicing as an advantage, as it allows me to do the after-auction management in a logical order: EOA notice first, payment processing second. I always found the buyers who paid immediately by Paypal mildly annoying. Instead of being able to simply go through the list of closed auctions and send out EOA notices, I had to divide them into two categories: paid and un-paid, and handle each one differently. GK

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I use both, but if I switched totally to BillPoint I’d still have to make the distinction, because some billpoint customers will send a request for a BillPoint invoice before you send the end of auction email.  (Got one this morning for an auction that I listed last night and sold on Buy it Now) Richard Ward – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I don’t like them quite as well as paypal, because I have to go and send the customer a BillPoint invoice.  If they let the customer just take the information from the end of auction notice you send them, and enter the auction information themselves, like paypal does, it would make them a whole lot easier to use. This was one of the reasons I didn’t sign up with Billpoint earlier.  Now that I’m using it, I’ve come to regard the invoicing as an advantage, as it allows me to do the after-auction management in a logical order: EOA notice first, payment processing second. I always found the buyers who paid immediately by Paypal mildly annoying. Instead of being able to simply go through the list of closed auctions and send out EOA notices, I had to divide them into two categories: paid and un-paid, and handle each one differently. GK

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I use both, but if I switched totally to BillPoint I’d still have to make the distinction, because some billpoint customers will send a request for a BillPoint invoice before you send the end of auction email.  (Got one this morning for an auction that I listed last night and sold on Buy it Now)

True, but, in my system at least,  the "request for invoice" isn’t as disruptive, since the item remains in the "awaiting payment" stack rather than jumping over to the "ready to ship" stack. GK

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Our company is considering legal actions against PayPal to recover funds they owe us. (We’ve posted a detailed posting). I think something is seriously wrong there??? We’ve requested that all of our funds be returned, if we ever get them. Good luck! WF CEO WS Inc. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Is there another company offering the same thing (CC transactions NOT MO’s) to international customers? PayPal is getting beyond a joke. Maybe in a few years it will be good, but they are trying to run before then can walk. Lets see if they land flat on their face!!! Ian

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Has anyone used ProPay or any other free

ProPay is far from free last time I looked the charged 3.5%. PayMe.com is free (was free they folded in Oct.) PayPlace.com is free (was free they folded in Dec.) ExchangePath is free (it appears they just folded in Jan) notice a pattern yet for the free services? PayDirect.com is free and still operating as of this posting.

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Has anyone used ProPay or any other free ProPay is far from free last time I looked the charged 3.5%. PayMe.com is free (was free they folded in Oct.) PayPlace.com is free (was free they folded in Dec.) ExchangePath is free (it appears they just folded in Jan) notice a pattern yet for the free services? PayDirect.com is free and still operating as of this posting.

There is no free lunch in the business world,therefore nothing is "free". Someone,somehow,somewhere has to pay the piper or the piper will cease to play. Personally I stick to BillPoint. Sure they charge but what’s your peace of mind worth? Candide

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PayDirect.com is free and still operating as of this posting. There is no free lunch in the business world,therefore nothing is "free". Someone,somehow,somewhere has to pay the piper or the piper will cease to play. Personally I stick to BillPoint. Sure they charge but what’s your peace of mind worth?

PayDirect is a nice service.  Operated by Yahoo.  Plus, they state very clearly that they will start charging for their service in the future (which is something not all of their competitors can claim)  I’ve used it for a couple of dozen transactions with nary a problem. Peter

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I just signed up for BillPoint. Seems pretty good. But it is for auctions ONLY, and that can be a bit of a problem if you have a non- paying high bidder, then are forced to sell it to the next-highest bidder. Or just selling something outside the eBay umbrella. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Well, there’s BillPoint. They take international credit card payments too. I use both PayPal and BillPoint and have never had the first bit of trouble with either. MB Is there another company offering the same thing (CC transactions NOT MO’s) to international customers? PayPal is getting beyond a joke. Maybe in a few years it will be good, but they are trying to run before then can walk. Lets see if they land flat on their face!!! Ian

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I just signed up for BillPoint. Seems pretty good. But it is for auctions ONLY, and that can be a bit of a problem if you have a non- paying high bidder, then are forced to sell it to the next-highest bidder. Or just selling something outside the eBay umbrella.

Nope — you can send either an "Auction" invoice or a "General" invoice. GK

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Do you really want eBay knowing the details of credit card transactions outside of eBay?  With their new attitude towards business relationships outside of eBay, I don’t think I’d accept BillPoint for an outside of eBay sale.  If the person had ever bid on one of your auctions and not won, eBay could decide you were really involved in fee avoidance.  I know it sounds strange, but no stranger than the rules change that came about a couple of weeks ago. Richard Ward – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I just signed up for BillPoint. Seems pretty good. But it is for auctions ONLY, and that can be a bit of a problem if you have a non- paying high bidder, then are forced to sell it to the next-highest bidder. Or just selling something outside the eBay umbrella. Nope — you can send either an "Auction" invoice or a "General" invoice. GK

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PayDirect.com is free and still operating as of this posting.

    …. yes, as a DSL Internet Service Provider …     ????? — BLASPHEMY: The ultimate and original political correctness.

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OK, I have accepted a LOT of money through paypal and am in the process of setting up a direct merchant account because some people do not want to put their CC# online. It is going to cost me almost double the amount that I pay with paypal to accept credit cards directly. Paypal is an awesome service, the only real problem I have is the amount of time that it takes to transfer money to my bank account. — David Saad Muzo Mine Emerald Co. Click here to search our auctions: http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/davesaad/

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I haven’t had any problems either, but I’m really getting annoyed at how they keep changing the rules on how much money you can accept without upgrading to their premier account.  I only got into PayPal because of free CC transactions (and I WAS singing their praises), but if I have to start paying a percentage on each transaction, then I may as well just do it the right way (by directly accepting CC’s) and drop them all together.  Right now, I can only receive $100 worth of CC payments per month, what a joke. Luckily I don’t sell a great deal on eBay so it hasn’t been an issue yet. Scott Is there another company offering the same thing (CC transactions NOT MO’s) to international customers? PayPal is getting beyond a joke. Maybe in a few years it will be good, but they are trying to run before then can walk. Lets see if they land flat on their face!!! I’ve received about 60 payments via Paypal and haven’t had any problems. http://www.aboutpdx.com http://www.funinportland.com

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Is there another company offering the same thing (CC transactions NOT MO’s) to international customers? PayPal is getting beyond a joke. Maybe in a few years it will be good, but they are trying to run before then can walk. Lets see if they land flat on their face!!! Ian

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i also agree paypal sucks i joined and had to enter my CC info and they billed my credit card US$1 and then i went to enter the numbers they gave me and they said i hadnt entered a credit card yet and they wanted to bill me again all this to prove i have a credit card

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Is there another company offering the same thing (CC transactions NOT MO’s) to international customers? PayPal is getting beyond a joke. Maybe in a few years it will be good, but they are trying to run before then can walk. Lets see if they land flat on their face!!! Ian

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Ok, I guess I have to come to their rescue…… If paypal is going to be good only in a couple of years, and has already been open for a year, wouldn’t any other company be even further behind? — David Saad Muzo Mine Emerald Co. Click here to search our auctions: http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/davesaad/

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Is there another company offering the same thing (CC transactions NOT MO’s) to international customers? PayPal is getting beyond a joke. Maybe in a few years it will be good, but they are trying to run before then can walk. Lets see if they land flat on their face!!! Ian

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Is there another company offering the same thing (CC transactions NOT MO’s) to international customers?

Not sure if exchangepath is international yet or not. BidPay accepts CCs, but pays in a US Funds WU money order.  $5 cost under $100 is borne by the buyer.  Sounds sizable, but when you consider the seller can ship immediately uppon confirmation versus the cost of an international PMO plus airmail, it’s really worth it for international buyers. HTH — If you’re interested in discussing possible creation of a new online auction newsgroup, please see the thread entitled "RFD: misc.business. online-auctions.discuss", currently posted in news.groups. Thank you! It also appears in RCC and alt.marketing.online.ebay

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Not sure if exchangepath is international yet or not.

Don’t look now, but I think ExchangePath is going down for the count. Log on to your ExchangePath account and click on "Send Money".  I asked when service would be restored they told me to look for "an alternate source".

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I haven’t had any problems either, but I’m really getting annoyed at how they keep changing the rules on how much money you can accept without upgrading to their premier account.  I only got into PayPal because of free CC transactions (and I WAS singing their praises), but if I have to start paying a percentage on each transaction, then I may as well just do it the right way (by directly accepting CC’s) and drop them all together.  Right now, I can only receive $100 worth of CC payments per month, what a joke. Luckily I don’t sell a great deal on eBay so it hasn’t been an issue yet. Scott

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Is there another company offering the same thing (CC transactions NOT MO’s) to international customers? PayPal is getting beyond a joke. Maybe in a few years it will be good, but they are trying to run before then can walk. Lets see if they land flat on their face!!! I’ve received about 60 payments via Paypal and haven’t had any problems. http://www.aboutpdx.com http://www.funinportland.com

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