Question:
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – uttered: *snipped* I KNOW it is against eBay rules to pass on these charges to bidders, but couldn’t you include it in your shipping/handling charge? *snipped* Best regards, Arlene That’s how I do my handling. eBay says you can not charge "for" certain items as cost of the auction. "But" You are allowed "Administration Costs". That is considered as Admin costs and is included in my final handling cost. so if you sold an item for $500 you’d add a $15 handling charge? like i said that idea only works so far. robert The only reason for time is so that everything doesn’t happen at once.
LOL, No! lol, use some common sense. But sure. I figure that as part of cost. I use a formula for up to a certain amount and then a different formula from that point on. And lets face it. If I sold an item for 500.00 you can bet I only paid around 20 bux for it. So no need to figure that in as handling because that’s part of the formula. Like when I sell computers, I buy dirt cheap or I don’t buy em. But I figure the cost of the auction in my handling. I DON’T figure the fvf cause that would be above my expected percentage therefore not an issue. These guys that don’t have a working model (formulas) to work from can’t understand why they loose on eBay. like the old joke is "I have a real job to support me selling on eBay." lol, allot do! working model and you might make it.
Response:
I do, into my S/H charge for all buyers. My $2.00 S/H charge for a knitted Barbie dress covers the cost of postage, a padded mailer, and "miscellaneous transaction fees" (i.e. PP or BP percentages).
How do you justify PayPal and/or BidPay fees as shipping or handling. They’re obviously neither.
Response:
70%. Wish they’d use billpoint while it’s still around. I prefer that, lower %.
Response:
My spider-sense tingled when Deborah Stevenson,,, BUT – I WOULDN’T MIND PAYING EXTRA FOR THIS CONVENIENCE!!! Me neither. However, I imagine that I do, to some extent, and you do as well; I suspect that many sellers sensibly build this cost into their pricing.
I do, into my S/H charge for all buyers. My $2.00 S/H charge for a knitted Barbie dress covers the cost of postage, a padded mailer, and "miscellaneous transaction fees" (i.e. PP or BP percentages). Every buyer is charged the same, and probably 90% of my transactions are PP or BP. I can count the checks/MOs/cash I’ve received on two hands with fingers left over. http://members.aol.com/kimmurphy/ Kimberly’s Barbie Collection: http://members.aol.com/kimmurphy/barbies.html
Response:
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Here, it’s probably 50-60%. i know you sell books too. do you click the paypal box on the payment page? and if so have you seen a radical jump in the past couple of weeks? robert I thought that box was for the payer – evidently I’m not fully aware of its purpose. Actually, I have seen a big jump in recent weeks, at least in part due to 1) I’m rather new to Paypal (only 2 months) and 2) my Billpoint payments have essentially disappeared – probably going to Paypal. Bottom line is that the percentage of Paypal payments has continued to continually climb, but our history is rather limited to make a good comparison.
I stand corrected. My wife informs me that in Nov, our Paypal payments were closer to 85%. Guess it has significant increased.
Response:
I would say around 70%. I primarily sell old collectable currency and stock certificates.
Response:
For the same reason that gas stations (or anyone else) cannot charge a ‘credit card fee’ or give a ‘discount’ for paying cash. It discourages people fron using the card.
Merchants do it though, example: http://www1.infinity-micro.com/prodLG.jsp?fap=cnet&prodId=ec6f91e4fb.3
Response:
personally dave i’d rather send the emails and have the extra $50 a week (assuming 90 sales at $10 each)
The fees were concerning at first, but it’s nice to ship within a few days and not have to keep up with a high inventory of sold books (waiting for checks, etc). I can now justify the extra cost of receiving more payments via paypal by the significantly reduced after-sale handling time.
Response:
Here, it’s probably 50-60%. i know you sell books too. do you click the paypal box on the payment page? and if so have you seen a radical jump in the past couple of weeks? robert
I thought that box was for the payer – evidently I’m not fully aware of its purpose. Actually, I have seen a big jump in recent weeks, at least in part due to 1) I’m rather new to Paypal (only 2 months) and 2) my Billpoint payments have essentially disappeared – probably going to Paypal. Bottom line is that the percentage of Paypal payments has continued to continually climb, but our history is rather limited to make a good comparison.
Response:
uttered: Arlene spaketh… stuck with. I KNOW it is against eBay rules to pass on these charges For the same reason that gas stations (or anyone else) cannot charge a ‘credit card fee’ or give a ‘discount’ for paying cash. It discourages people fron using the card.
and just why would you want to encourage people to get in debt? i’ve never understood that one. seems to me paying in cash is a *good* thing and should be rewarded. robert The only reason for time is so that everything doesn’t happen at once.
Response:
uttered: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – *snipped* I KNOW it is against eBay rules to pass on these charges to bidders, but couldn’t you include it in your shipping/handling charge? *snipped* Best regards, Arlene That’s how I do my handling. eBay says you can not charge "for" certain items as cost of the auction. "But" You are allowed "Administration Costs". That is considered as Admin costs and is included in my final handling cost.
so if you sold an item for $500 you’d add a $15 handling charge? like i said that idea only works so far. robert The only reason for time is so that everything doesn’t happen at once.
Response:
uttered: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – that I now prefer bottom-posting As a buyer only, I’m curious as to what percentage of your sales on eBay are paid with PayPal? Probably 90%. All my auctions are BIN, so often the first I know that an auction has closed is when a buyer pays with PayPal immediately after the auction closes. That accounts for about 50 percent of my roughly 100 auction sales a week. This alone makes PayPal worth it for me. No calculating anything, no EOA letters, just respond to the Instant Purchase e-mail with a canned response about the day the item will ship (same day if payment arrives before 5 p.m.; next day otherwise.) Another 20 percent of the total pay within an hour or two, and the rest of my PayPal customers pay within about 24 hours. A very small percentage take longer. I also receive 40-50 money orders or personal checks a month, and those arrive an average of 7-10 days after auction close. Obviously, I prefer PayPal. I’m also still getting one or two BillPoint payments a week.
personally dave i’d rather send the emails and have the extra $50 a week (assuming 90 sales at $10 each) robert The only reason for time is so that everything doesn’t happen at once.
Response:
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I started using PayPal around August 2000. The $5.00 deal was long gone when I signed up. The only $$$ (read pennies) I received was a few cents they deposited in order to verify my account. What $5 deal are you refering to? They still advertise "Get $5 for signing up" on the main Paypal webpage.
but you have to jump through a lot more "hoops" to get the $5 robert
Response:
Arlene spaketh… As a buyer only, I’m curious as to what percentage of your sales on eBay are paid with PayPal?
99% + I started using PayPal around August 2000. The $5.00 deal was long gone when I signed up.
Are you referring to the $5 bonus if you referred someone? I got about $20 from that and I was only running the occasional auction. Sweet deal. BUT – I WOULDN’T MIND PAYING EXTRA FOR THIS CONVENIENCE!!! I realize from the many posts in another thread that accepting PayPal irritates the daylights out of quite a few sellers because of the charges they
The act of conducting business irrates quite few sellers, hence the auctions with a 3 line description and 80 lines of ‘terms’ demanding that payment be received within 3 days and ’serious bidders only’ and a lot of other nonsense. stuck with. I KNOW it is against eBay rules to pass on these charges
For the same reason that gas stations (or anyone else) cannot charge a ‘credit card fee’ or give a ‘discount’ for paying cash. It discourages people fron using the card. bidders, but couldn’t you include it in your shipping/handling charge?
shhhh! You’re going to give people ideas 
Clue me in please.
I think you are already clued in. — McQualude
Response:
*snipped*
I KNOW it is against eBay rules to pass on these charges to bidders, but couldn’t you include it in your shipping/handling charge?
*snipped* Best regards, Arlene
That’s how I do my handling. eBay says you can not charge "for" certain items as cost of the auction. "But" You are allowed "Administration Costs". That is considered as Admin costs and is included in my final handling cost.
Response:
As a buyer only, I’m curious as to what percentage of your sales on eBay are paid with PayPal? 100%. I only take Paypal and espite dire warnings that I was cutting myself off from customers my stuff sells as fast as it ever did, I usually get paid the same day as the auction ends (usually BIN) and my customers are ecstatic becaus ethey get their stuff in a couple or three days. TS Is more Cowbell!
LOL, I fully agree. I get around 92% are paypal. Love it. I ship priority only and its nice to see my feedback speaking how I pack and fast I ship. Lots of repeat business when it can be fast sergvice. Paypal cuts days off.
Response:
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – As a buyer only, I’m curious as to what percentage of your sales on eBay are paid with PayPal? On average, I would say approximately 90% of my buyers use Paypal. Here, it’s probably 50-60%.
i know you sell books too. do you click the paypal box on the payment page? and if so have you seen a radical jump in the past couple of weeks? robert
Response:
BUT – I WOULDN’T MIND PAYING EXTRA FOR THIS CONVENIENCE!!! Me neither. However, I imagine that I do, to some extent, and you do as well; I suspect that many sellers sensibly build this cost into their pricing.
so some extent you’re right, but some items can only start so high and you pretty much know how it’s gonna end. same with s&h charges. robert
Response:
that I now prefer bottom-posting As a buyer only, I’m curious as to what percentage of your sales on eBay are paid with PayPal?
Probably 90%. All my auctions are BIN, so often the first I know that an auction has closed is when a buyer pays with PayPal immediately after the auction closes. That accounts for about 50 percent of my roughly 100 auction sales a week. This alone makes PayPal worth it for me. No calculating anything, no EOA letters, just respond to the Instant Purchase e-mail with a canned response about the day the item will ship (same day if payment arrives before 5 p.m.; next day otherwise.) Another 20 percent of the total pay within an hour or two, and the rest of my PayPal customers pay within about 24 hours. A very small percentage take longer. I also receive 40-50 money orders or personal checks a month, and those arrive an average of 7-10 days after auction close. Obviously, I prefer PayPal. I’m also still getting one or two BillPoint payments a week.
Response:
As a buyer only, I’m curious as to what percentage of your sales on eBay are paid with PayPal? On average, I would say approximately 90% of my buyers use Paypal.
Here, it’s probably 50-60%.
Response:
As a buyer only, I’m curious as to what percentage of your sales on eBay are paid with PayPal?
100%. I only take Paypal and espite dire warnings that I was cutting myself off from customers my stuff sells as fast as it ever did, I usually get paid the same day as the auction ends (usually BIN) and my customers are ecstatic becaus ethey get their stuff in a couple or three days. TS Is more Cowbell!
Response:
As a buyer only, I’m curious as to what percentage of your sales on eBay are paid with PayPal?
it was about 60%, but in the past 4 weeks since the ebay thingy at the top came about, it’s shot up to close to 100% I started using PayPal around August 2000. The $5.00 deal was long gone when I signed up. The only $$$ (read pennies) I received was a few cents they deposited in order to verify my account. Speed in paying was my main consideration in signing up. I liked being able to win an auction at 9PM and have my payment on its way immediately.
that’s the reason most buyers signed up No baloney about holding my check for two weeks until it cleared. (I do realize this may be necessary for low-feedback bidders, but for someone with no negs or neutrals it has always irritated me that it does happen at times)
i never liked the concept either, mostly i never hold checks. i keep a disclaimer in my EOA mainly to give me the option on stuff $50+ . never understood holding a $10 check… I do admit that for the buyer the price is right. I don’t have to wait for my "prize" while a check clears, I don’t have to pay $.90 for a postal money order plus a $.37 stamp, and don’t have to go to the post office to mail it (or put it in my mailbox).
no argument there BUT – I WOULDN’T MIND PAYING EXTRA FOR THIS CONVENIENCE!!!
be careful what you wish for, they will start charging both of us I realize from the many posts in another thread that accepting PayPal irritates the daylights out of quite a few sellers because of the charges they get stuck with.
some of it is the charges for what’s advertised as a "free" service. a LOT of it is just the way paypal does business. as you’ve probably read in the other threads, they are very sneaky with things and people who feel they’ve been "tricked" aren’t happy customers. in fact you don’t even have to have been tricked, just be able to see the scam. I KNOW it is against eBay rules to pass on these charges to bidders, but couldn’t you include it in your shipping/handling charge?
that works to a point… on a $10 it’s .60, ok that can be tacked on… on a $100 sale it’s $3.30, maybe you can get away with it… on a $200 sale its $6.30 :-O i know you’ve read the threads on handling charges versus actual postage, it would never fly, lol. If a large percentage of your customers are PayPalers wouldn’t that be the easiest way to go?
see above robert
Response:
As a buyer only, I’m curious as to what percentage of your sales on eBay are paid with PayPal? I started using PayPal around August 2000. The $5.00 deal was long gone when I signed up. The only $$$ (read pennies) I received was a few cents they deposited in order to verify my account. Speed in paying was my main consideration in signing up. I liked being able to win an auction at 9PM and have my payment on its way immediately. No baloney about holding my check for two weeks until it cleared. (I do realize this may be necessary for low-feedback bidders, but for someone with no negs or neutrals it has always irritated me that it does happen at times) I do admit that for the buyer the price is right. I don’t have to wait for my "prize" while a check clears, I don’t have to pay $.90 for a postal money order plus a $.37 stamp, and don’t have to go to the post office to mail it (or put it in my mailbox). BUT – I WOULDN’T MIND PAYING EXTRA FOR THIS CONVENIENCE!!! I realize from the many posts in another thread that accepting PayPal irritates the daylights out of quite a few sellers because of the charges they get stuck with. I KNOW it is against eBay rules to pass on these charges to bidders, but couldn’t you include it in your shipping/handling charge? If a large percentage of your customers are PayPalers wouldn’t that be the easiest way to go? Clue me in please. PS – I will be happy to refund the PayPal fee if I was one of your high bidders ;o) My records go back to 6/9/97 including copies of the winning auctions. Best regards, Arlene —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–== Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–
Response:
BUT – I WOULDN’T MIND PAYING EXTRA FOR THIS CONVENIENCE!!!
Me neither. However, I imagine that I do, to some extent, and you do as well; I suspect that many sellers sensibly build this cost into their pricing. Deborah Stevenson
Response:
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – As a buyer only, I’m curious as to what percentage of your sales on eBay are paid with PayPal? I started using PayPal around August 2000. The $5.00 deal was long gone when I signed up. The only $$$ (read pennies) I received was a few cents they deposited in order to verify my account. Speed in paying was my main consideration in signing up. I liked being able to win an auction at 9PM and have my payment on its way immediately. No baloney about holding my check for two weeks until it cleared. (I do realize this may be necessary for low-feedback bidders, but for someone with no negs or neutrals it has always irritated me that it does happen at times) I do admit that for the buyer the price is right. I don’t have to wait for my "prize" while a check clears, I don’t have to pay $.90 for a postal money order plus a $.37 stamp, and don’t have to go to the post office to mail it (or put it in my mailbox). BUT – I WOULDN’T MIND PAYING EXTRA FOR THIS CONVENIENCE!!! I realize from the many posts in another thread that accepting PayPal irritates the daylights out of quite a few sellers because of the charges they get stuck with. I KNOW it is against eBay rules to pass on these charges to bidders, but couldn’t you include it in your shipping/handling charge? If a large percentage of your customers are PayPalers wouldn’t that be the easiest way to go? Clue me in please. PS – I will be happy to refund the PayPal fee if I was one of your high bidders ;o) My records go back to 6/9/97 including copies of the winning auctions. Best regards, Arlene
On average, I would say approximately 90% of my buyers use Paypal. Obviously, I like getting the payment quickly, but because of the high fees, I would prefer being sent a money order or check. My favorite is c2it because then I get paid quickly and I don’t pay any fees, but I’ve only had about 5 people use it in 6 months. If I were to increase my shipping/handling fees to cover the Paypal fees, I feel I would be ripping off my buyers. I add a small amount in that helps to cover the Paypal fees, but for most of my items it only covers a small portion. I know buyers look at shipping fees and if they’re ridiculously high, many won’t bother with the auction which ultimately causes lower prices.
If you like this post and would like to receive updates from this blog, please subscribe our feed.